Season 2, Episode 61 - Have You Heard? Kia Pickup? Stolen EVs, EV Sales, Tacoma Fuel Economy

 

 

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Sean P. Holman (0s):

Hey, lighting. Have, You. Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6s):

No, I don’t think so.

Intro (9s):

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Sean P. Holman (46s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 6s):

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4 (1m 30s):

Is the show where they talk breaking news. And This is the part where Coleman has Lightning Have, You Heard,

Sean P. Holman (1m 37s):

Lightning Have You Heard.

Intro (1m 39s):

How about

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 39s):

New? Nope, I don’t think so until you tell me the story then maybe I have, but it’s doubtful.

Sean P. Holman (1m 47s):

Apparently photos have flooded the internet about Kia’s new pickup truck.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 53s):

Wait, what?

Sean P. Holman (1m 54s):

So South Korea in a underground parking structure, somebody caught a, they say a cladded test mule of the rumored upcoming Kia pickup truck. So Hyundai has the Santa Cruz here. So obviously their sister brands So. It’s not surprising that Kia would want in on the action. My guess is that it would be based on the Santa Cruz, but I don’t know for sure. I mean it’s just looks like a pickup truck with like padding on it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 21s):

Interesting.

Sean P. Holman (2m 21s):

Okay. Not a lot to glean from there. All.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 23s):

Right? Holman Speaking of Kia, I, I, I’ve questioned which one is it’s got more cache. Kia or Hyundai? I would

Sean P. Holman (2m 30s):

Say Hyundai. ’cause Hyundai is also attached to the Genesis brand and Kia is sort of like the, the Hyundai little brother.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 36s):

Okay. Okay. Here’s why I ask, as far as I can tell, the hottest vehicles for theft right now, the most stolen vehicles are all the hellcats, regardless of what you put it in, whether it’s a Charger challenger, Durango, or the TRX followed by the Camaro and then the Kia. Why?

Sean P. Holman (2m 58s):

Well, it’s because specific to the Kia. Well, there’s a, there’s a few things. One is people don’t really, it’s joy writing for the most part because it started with a TikTok thing. It did, yeah. And

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 11s):

I didn’t see That one.

Sean P. Holman (3m 12s):

Yeah. Back in 2021, TikTok SH basically showed all the kids how you can easily break into and start up a Kia because it didn’t have basic anti-theft device that a lot of other vehicles had. Oh. And so that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 23s):

Would explain a lot of it. Okay.

Sean P. Holman (3m 24s):

So, it’s joy riding. It’s TikTok. There’s a lot of ’em out there. So from a parts perspective, obviously they’re stealing hellcats and, and chargers and challengers and all, and t RXs for other reasons. Those things are going overseas. They’re getting stripped apart, whatever. That’s not the case with the Kia. Those are a bunch of kids on TikTok going, oh dude, I got eight of those in my neighborhood. Which one do I wanna pick today? And go, you know, joy ride to McDonald’s or something.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 47s):

It’s kinda like when we used to have slim gym competitions when I was a kid, we who could get into an accord faster. Like I had a down to a second. I could just,

Sean P. Holman (3m 55s):

Yeah, I knew exactly where it was. We could grab that little So it, metal

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 58s):

Rod So. it think it’s some of that.

Sean P. Holman (3m 59s):

No, there’s a a year range of Kias that don’t have an immobilizer in them. There’s no chipped in the key or anything. So basically you can just bust through and, and I’m not gonna tell you how to, the, the inner webs will share all that with you, but it’s very easy because there’s not a electronic anti-theft between the key and starting the vehicle. Gotcha.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 21s):

So I was super freaked out. I Think we talked about this briefly on a previous episode. There was a TRX stolen in the city of Carson, not far from me. What is that? don don’t know. 10, 15 miles from me. Yeah. In a very similar neighborhood. The guy had a house very similar to mine. Anyway, it was a black TRX black wheels whole thing. And I, and the only difference is he had a rooftop tent or you know, on the rack. I think he had a lightener rack on the darn thing. So stolen, gone. And I, I’m starting to freak out because then you know Ryan Allen at, at work, he’s, you might’ve met him briefly. He’s in charge of our shipping department. His son’s got a Hellcat charger And it. Well he did. It was stolen two Mondays ago. So Ryan left work, his kid sleeps until 11.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 3s):

Whatever his job, you know, he, he goes to work late. So Ryan leaves work and six minutes after he left in the morning at like eight 13 in the morning or whenever it was, they broke into the car, they pushed it down the street. Somehow they got in neutral. They pushed it down the street and then they programmed a key and then drove it away. And on the way home, somehow they figured out who the, who the owner of the car was. And they frigging instagramed him and clowned him as they were going a hundred miles an hour down the freeway. So I mean Ryan’s son. I mean

Sean P. Holman (5m 34s):

They getting, well also have Instagram stickers on our, on our vehicles, right?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 37s):

Yeah. So that’s maybe how they did. Ryan’s son is getting clowned on Instagram by the dudes that stole it. They ultimately found out, that’s why it’s good

Sean P. Holman (5m 44s):

To have a tracker.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 45s):

So they ultimately found out where it landed in Compton. You brought up like Compton or somewhere. There’s a bunch of legal reasons they can’t go get it. So he’s hosed. No,

Sean P. Holman (5m 53s):

That’s not true. There’s no way That’s true.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 55s):

I am telling you he’s already been paid out and they know where It is. Those

Sean P. Holman (5m 58s):

Are both facts. Well, he got paid out. That’s, that’s the deal. He got paid out. If he got paid out, knows where It is. That’s one thing. He’s but’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 3s):

Well, a, anyway, so my, I I

Sean P. Holman (6m 5s):

All, all you have to do is, is go say I have stolen property at this address and have the police go get a warrant and go in and grab it. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 12s):

Don’t don don’t know the legalities. I’ll just stop there. Well, you

Sean P. Holman (6m 14s):

Know, who else had their hell cast stolen?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 18s):

No, I don’t. Who? Kristi

Sean P. Holman (6m 19s):

Lee, who’s famous on Instagram. She’s the one of the hosts of like the discovery car shows and stuff. Oh yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 25s):

I know Kristi Lee. Yes.

Sean P. Holman (6m 25s):

She’s, she had her stolen as well. So I mean it’s happening to a lot of people.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 30s):

But I will say that I was freaked out and Yep. That’s

Sean P. Holman (6m 33s):

Why I put mine in the garage. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 34s):

I don’t have a garage to put it in. Yeah, there’s a golf cart in it. And, it wouldn’t fit if I wanted. It didn’t fit in parking garages. So I reached out to the guys at IGLA who, because there’s all sorts of thefts all over Texas, TXs, Hellcats, all that stuff. And the only one they’re talking about is Reco Revel looks like a dongle that you plug into the dash. That’s,

Sean P. Holman (6m 52s):

It’s kinda weird. Which is tears up your your wiring harness. That scares me. And, and I would not touch that if you read, read into that. It’s not all it’s cracked up, up to be from what I’ve read.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 2s):

So That one scares me. This one intercepts the can bus and here’s the trippy part. And I was a little uneasy and I’ll tell John, the guy who did it when he, when we get him on the phone with a couple weeks, I wasn’t allowed to watch the installation. They have a module and he says it’s gonna take two hours and no one can watch me. I said, that’s weird, don don’t know how comfortable. And he goes, I said, why I, I install car stereos, they need to know where It is. I’m gonna feel uncomfortable. He goes, look, you will tell someone where It is and that person will tell someone where It is and all the installers hide ’em in relatively the same spot. And the word will get out and the thieves will know where to disable it. We’re not gonna tell anyone collectively we have an agreement with Igla, the company that makes it, that we’re not gonna share where this device is And, it intercepts the can bus and So, it deadens the vehicle.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 46s):

If you don’t put in your code within a few seconds of

Sean P. Holman (7m 49s):

Where do you activating it, where

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 50s):

You go on anywhere on the steering Wheel controls or the, the shifters anywhere. Hmm. It works on Camaro’s and all that. All that. The RAM products and, and all the Stellantis vehicles. And I gets the GM two now. So, and they’re starting to get the Kias and he’s the one that told me, he’s like, I gotta, I’m, I’m super busy. I gotta, I’ve got Camaros to put these devices in and, and Kias and I go, excuse me, what Kias

Sean P. Holman (8m 14s):

2011 to 2021 Kias.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 17s):

Isn’t that

Sean P. Holman (8m 17s):

Super easy? That’s a bigger, It is a big span.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 20s):

The big deal is that this prevents the guys from hijacking your key code or your key fob that’s always broadcasting, intercepting it and then fooling your vehicle that they have the key when they don’t. They’ve just basically mimicked the key. And so,

Sean P. Holman (8m 34s):

Which is why I don’t start my vehicle, try not to without knowing what’s outside. If there’s like a strange vehicle outside or something, I’m not just like putting it up to my head to start in the garage or whatever.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 43s):

Interesting. Well apparently this prevents it. We’re gonna have to get ’em on the phone and hopefully when I go to work tomorrow, ’cause they just installed it today, my truck is not dead. Hopefully I can drive

Sean P. Holman (8m 52s):

It. I mean that’ll be interesting I guess. Yeah, All.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 54s):

Right. So we’ll see how that goes. So you have more news.

Sean P. Holman (8m 57s):

Hey lighting, did you hear? No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 59s):

I don’t think so. According

Sean P. Holman (9m 1s):

To gm, they are talking about building between 200 and 300,000.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 8s):

Lemme guess, lemme guess 200 and 300,000

Sean P. Holman (9m 13s):

Ultium based EV. So that’s their EV architecture. So that’s the new Blazer, EV, the Cadillac lyric, the Silverado, the Sierra, the Hummer EV. I, I I mean those

5 (9m 25s):

Are losers baby. You don’t want nothing to do with those.

Sean P. Holman (9m 29s):

It just seems like

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 29s):

No you don’t. Oh

Sean P. Holman (9m 30s):

Really high number. Considering are there enough takers

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 34s):

When all of like the, I it’s not fair to say that there’s negative press, but there is

Sean P. Holman (9m 39s):

Pushback. I think there’s a lot of pushback right now from average people who are going to be the consumers. And I think there’s a lot of things that happen with that. That big snow cold snap that happened. I think, you know, time’s coming my Tesla

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 52s):

Will not charge someone come get it.

Sean P. Holman (9m 55s):

Okay. I’m not sure

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 56s):

What that accent

Sean P. Holman (9m 56s):

Is. I don’t what know what that is either. Just

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 58s):

Cracks me up.

Sean P. Holman (9m 58s):

These are the sales from 2023. Okay. Bright Drop Zebo, which is the FedEx van you see driving around your neighborhoods. Yeah. 497 Cadillac Lyric 9,154, which I’m actually blown away that it’s that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 12s):

High 9,000. Well so that’s, that is such a small number for

Sean P. Holman (10m 16s):

Production car. I know, but it’s such a big number for, for these Chevy Blazer. EV is 482 and keep in mind that just hit so

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 24s):

482 units total. But they,

Sean P. Holman (10m 26s):

That brand new car just hit it the like December became available. Okay. All. right. The Chevy Bolt was 62,000, which is a pretty good number.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 34s):

That’s a good number And it’s a, I’ve not, it’s been no secret. I like the Chevy Bolt.

Sean P. Holman (10m 39s):

Chevy Silverado, EV 4 61 GMC Hummer EV, the SUV and the pickup 3244th. So the total is just under 76,000 for 2023. And they wanna go all the way up to 300,000. Wow.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 54s):

Just

Sean P. Holman (10m 54s):

Seems like a lot.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 55s):

We need to check in with a friend of mine who just, eh, I guess it’s about three weeks ago, finally took possession of his Hummer.

Sean P. Holman (11m 4s):

Speaking of Hummers, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 12s):

No. No.

Sean P. Holman (11m 13s):

So in line with the GM Ultium platform story, there’s somebody who’s on TikTok and Instagram as Texas Truck King. don don’t know if you’re familiar with them. Uhuh? No.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 23s):

They

Sean P. Holman (11m 23s):

Have posted a rendering kinda looks like a Transue rendering but I’m not sure if it looks like that kind of 3D rendering of a Hummer EV.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 34s):

Okay.

Sean P. Holman (11m 34s):

That they plan on having at the 2024 Seima show on Can. you guess it? Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 41s):

Thirties,

Sean P. Holman (11m 41s):

57 inch evolution rubber track tires on 41 inch JTX forged wheels.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 48s):

Okay, wait a minute. Hold on JTX is on a roll. Have you seen,

Sean P. Holman (11m 52s):

I like your pun there

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 52s):

By the way. So JTX are the guys that dropped the cyber truck photo dumped on like 20 sixes. Did you see That one Gold JTX wheels? Yes. Okay, so it’s all the same. JTX is on fire right now. JTX is trying to take over like American Forces market. Yeah, they’re like, they’re trying to go the big wheels. What is

Sean P. Holman (12m 13s):

That? That’s what I’m saying. It looks like it’s on portals or something.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 17s):

Yeah, those are

Sean P. Holman (12m 17s):

Portals. I mean it’s, but by

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 19s):

The way, it’s wild. Those portals are 36 inches tall. I

Sean P. Holman (12m 23s):

Mean. Well listen, if here’s what

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 25s):

That’s a Mars Road.

Sean P. Holman (12m 27s):

I got it. But here’s what I’m saying is you can hate all you want

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 31s):

But you drive it wouldn’t you?

Sean P. Holman (12m 32s):

I mean I’d want to. No, but my that Listen, you can hate all you want the big SEMA show trucks. Yeah. This just gives all those guys hope that even with the EV platform, it ain’t gonna end soon.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 42s):

Oh my God, where’s

Sean P. Holman (12m 44s):

The steering? Do you see it? Look at that. Where’s the steering on that?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 47s):

You’re asking me? You

Sean P. Holman (12m 48s):

Literally look like you can walk under it. It’s 60 inches to the belly. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 52s):

You see where’s the steering?

Sean P. Holman (12m 53s):

Where’s the steering?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 54s):

It’s there is none. It doesn’t steer. I don’t know how it steers how turn

Sean P. Holman (12m 58s):

It’s gotta be turn. It’s gotta turn at the top of the knuckle. But there’s no leverage up there. So. I Don’t know. Hold on.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 4s):

He is Got it on the TV in the pod chat. I’m gonna move my microphone up here. Oh. no, I see it. Look right here. See this right here? This is the, you got the lower control arm. The upper control arm and then you have the, so you’re

Sean P. Holman (13m 14s):

Steering those big things off the top of the spindle.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 17s):

Yes. The spindle. Yeah. don

Sean P. Holman (13m 18s):

Don’t know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 18s):

About that. That’s not gonna

Sean P. Holman (13m 19s):

Work. Well I’m just

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 19s):

Saying that’s not gonna turn out well.

Sean P. Holman (13m 22s):

I mean it’s gonna make a giant. I hope it makes it, I hope it makes it. Now wait

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 26s):

A minute. This looks like Truck Guru’s logo. They stole Chris Payne’s logo right here.

Sean P. Holman (13m 31s):

Listen, I’m not gonna get into the politics of Texas Truck Builders.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 35s):

Oh my gosh. Remember the last time we

Sean P. Holman (13m 36s):

Met. Let’s just walk away from them.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 37s):

Move bumped into move

Sean P. Holman (13m 38s):

Right along. Hey lighting, did you hear welcome to Barnes and no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 43s):

No I did not.

Sean P. Holman (13m 44s):

If you want to get your hands on a brand new 2024 Gladiator, which comes in the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 49s):

Sport and I might

Sean P. Holman (13m 50s):

The Sport S, the Mojave and Rubicon and Mojave X and Rubicon prices have gone up.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 57s):

Before you tell me the price, I’m gonna play the role of the dummy ’cause I do that. Well I don’t know what an S is. I know what like the Sahara is. I don’t know what the sport is.

Sean P. Holman (14m 7s):

The sport’s, the base model. Oh, the S is a little bit extra stuff. The Mojave and Rubicon Mojave’s, the go fast Rubicon is the crawling and X and Rubicon X have things like steel bumpers and whatnot. But the sport is actually 1,025 less to get into at 39, 7 90. And the Sport s at 43, 2 90 is either the same or 1195 less. However a Mojave in a Rubicon 54 8 90 up 1750. This is some spendy truck right there. You

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 42s):

Said 54 super

Sean P. Holman (14m 43s):

Capable now 54. Now the new trims of Mojave X and Rubicon X, which have some more coutre ma and like the, the A Coutre ma that you will need a coutre ma such as steel bumpers, leather seats, things like that. The base price of those new trims, 64 8 90. That’s freaking expensive.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 3s):

I don’t know what the point had to

Sean P. Holman (15m 4s):

Do with that. I don’t know either. But, but I’m looking at that and I, I’m okay. It would be really hard when you’re looking at mid-size trucks in the $65,000 range. It’s funny. You think that’s super high? I bet you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 17s):

The wait a minute, the, the GMC canyon bison and all that

Sean P. Holman (15m 21s):

All, right? And then also the Toyota TRD pro. The pro

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 25s):

Because the I force Max inter iss gotta be be in the there.

Sean P. Holman (15m 29s):

They’ve gotta be every bit of 60, 70.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 31s):

Oh oh you, I think they’re gonna knock

Sean P. Holman (15m 33s):

On the door 70. No, don don’t. There’s no way they’re gonna hit 70. You don’t think

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 35s):

So?

Sean P. Holman (15m 35s):

No, no, no. But you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 37s):

Don’t even thinking like the Denali trim, they’re gonna hit 70.

Sean P. Holman (15m 40s):

No. ’cause now you’re in, you’re solidly in half ton territory, like solidly in half. You’re not like, you’re not knocking on the door of half ton. You’re in it. You’re in it. Okay. And at that point you may just go, that’s a lot, a lot of price for a little truck that still has some cheap plastics and leather and stuff. Fair enough. So I don’t know. I just, and I, you know, I know I have a 3 92, but that was a shocking amount of money. This is a shocking amount of money. The midsize truck market is so on fire. No wonder all the manufacturers are racing to go play down there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 9s):

Hmm. Do you feel like we’re getting old and here’s why I ask. Yes. I feel like a lot of the guys, the young guys that I interact with on a daily basis, they don’t seem freaked out by a 70 or $80,000 truck. I was talking to a guy today on Instagram and he was looking for a part and he goes, Hey, I got a brand new L five P, which is the durmax. And he goes, I’m not really rich. So what kind of deals do you have? and I go stop. The cheapest the cheapest base model you can get into is in the sixties. Yeah. So to say like, I am trust fund

Sean P. Holman (16m 44s):

Kid or

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 45s):

I don’t, I have no idea. He’s like, don don’t have a lot of money, but I have a $60,000. And by the way, he didn’t say that he had a base model. I’m thinking what’s the least expensive one he can have? I, I deal with guys who are, they’re in their mid twenties and they have Denali Ultimates, which starts at like 1 0 6. I don’t know what’s, yeah. What’s up with that? I, I So

Sean P. Holman (17m 12s):

I got nothing for you. so

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 12s):

We are feeling old because like the prices have just all gone up. You know what I mean. Like our, our grandfathers are like a pair of

Sean P. Holman (17m 18s):

Socks are a dollar. Right.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 19s):

I used to pay 5 cents. Right. You know like it’s just all going up.

Sean P. Holman (17m 22s):

Yeah. But still nobody’s making that kind of money. Yeah. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 25s):

Mean some are, I guess computer programmers are making a ton of money, man. Skilled engineers are making a ton of money. The oil dudes down in Texas, you know. Well

Sean P. Holman (17m 33s):

For now until anyway,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 34s):

Lineman make a ton of money.

Sean P. Holman (17m 36s):

Hey lighting, did you hear? No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 38s):

No, no.

Sean P. Holman (17m 40s):

The 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Yes. Four by four.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 44s):

Yes. Tell me more. In

Sean P. Holman (17m 46s):

Official testing, yes. Gets up to 25 miles per gallon.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 50s):

Okay. That’s

Sean P. Holman (17m 50s):

Pretty solid.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 51s):

Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (17m 52s):

So that’s the, the hybrid giving you the power and more efficiency. And I would totally be down with 25 miles per gallon and a four by four.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 59s):

I cannot wait to talk to Sheldon Brown, chief engineer of the

Sean P. Holman (18m 4s):

Tacoma. You mean on our next episode? Yep.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 8s):

Very excited.

Sean P. Holman (18m 9s):

Then you’re really gonna have a hard time waiting for our next show.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 12s):

Yeah, I’m impatient.

Sean P. Holman (18m 13s):

So what are you gonna do between now and then with all your free time?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 18s):

Think I wanna get on another jury?

Sean P. Holman (18m 20s):

Yeah. ’cause that worked out so well for your schedule this week.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 23s):

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