Truck Show Podcast Season 2 Episode 114 - Brad Lovell Defends his Championship in Australia

 

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (0s):

Holman, even though I’m looking at you right now, you’re not actually here. Where

Sean P. Holman (3s):

Are you? I’m not here. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5s):

Realize that right now you’re not here. You’re actually on the road somewhere.

Sean P. Holman (8s):

I am going to be when I think this episode airs, or shortly before, I don’t know, somewhere between Utah and Colorado and the back country wheeling with AEV on a, I think it’s a eight or nine day trip. It’ll be like five, 600 miles of Offroading and probably like 2000 miles of highway.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26s):

That’s a lot. That’s quite a humble brag. You’re going out with a EV to spend 2000 miles, 600 of which are offroad.

Sean P. Holman (34s):

Probably more than that. I’m going to put more miles on the 3 92 than I currently have on the Aria in one week.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (40s):

How many miles do you have on the 392 right now?

Sean P. Holman (43s):

19,000.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44s):

Damn. I was just, I’m just about to crack 16. Well, though I haven’t driven mine for

Sean P. Holman (49s):

Three months.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50s):

For almost four months. Yeah. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (52s):

I only drive mine on trips. How’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55s):

Your, how’s your windshield, by the way?

Sean P. Holman (56s):

I’ve got one brand new one laying on my garage floor right

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (60s):

Now. Do so mine, I just got another rock thrown at me today by the wonderful sand trucks that travel every single morning on the 6 0 5 freeway. Yeah. Going north and southbound, is it east and west? North and south, whatever it is, north and south in here in southern California. There’s the biggest sand moving project ever in the history of the entire

Sean P. Holman (1m 21s):

World. Yeah. And all those trucks in front of you on the freeway. And

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 23s):

They’re all on this freeway because where I work by banks is just pockmarked. It looks like.

Sean P. Holman (1m 28s):

Speaking of the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 28s):

Worst acne of Southern California, speaking of right there,

Sean P. Holman (1m 30s):

Pits and pockmarks. That’s what my windshield looks like because the very first day I had it, I guess it would be day three, driving home, I hit Utah in a massive sandstorm where the winds were going 70 miles an hour and peppered the whole windshield. And so for the past two years I’ve been driving with a windshield that looks like diamond sparkles and it’s horrid and I hate every moment of it, but I’ve got a brand new Mopar Gorilla glass windshield sitting in my garage that I was gonna put in. And then I said, no dummy, you’re not gonna put that in until after,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 2s):

After this

Sean P. Holman (2m 3s):

Trip. ’cause we’re gonna be off-roading with the group and it’s gonna be cool. We’re gonna have prospector xls, we’re gonna have Colorado bisons, we’re gonna have gladiators Jeep Wranglers. So it’s gonna be the product.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 15s):

Wait, Hold On a second. Which day am I flying in?

Sean P. Holman (2m 17s):

I think you have to work.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 20s):

All

Sean P. Holman (2m 21s):

Right. You are the one who has an overlord. I I’m my own you. Yeah. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 24s):

You are your own boss. But I, I think I could get a way for a day or two.

Sean P. Holman (2m 29s):

How are you? We’re gonna be in the middle of nowhere. We’re not gonna be like by the airport.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 32s):

I, I’m gonna call it Dave Sparks and have me chopper in. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (2m 35s):

If you do that, you can come. Okay. I’ll send you the GPS coordinates. I’d like to see that happen.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 38s):

Did you say that? Did you see the dude he fricking Dave built himself a barge So. we could land in the middle of Lake Powell with his, with his Black Hawk or whatever the hell He is

Sean P. Holman (2m 46s):

Silly.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 48s):

It’s ridiculous. This is silly and awesome. Good for him. But like,

Sean P. Holman (2m 51s):

Is this awesome or is it just douchey?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 54s):

He keeps, he

Sean P. Holman (2m 55s):

Built a bar to, you can land a helicopter in the middle of a lake I mean that’s kind of like really?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 0s):

I don’t know. I if you can, it’s you. He’s just, he’s he’s doing it for the YouTube You, know what I’m saying? Yeah. He’s got Whistling Diesel up there and it’s all this big thing. And I don’t know if you guys are following that. I think it’s entertaining. I, yeah, it’s some of it’s douchey, but I don’t care. It’s, it’s all for the, like it’s not for the gram, it’s for the YouTube. All right,

Sean P. Holman (3m 17s):

Well, well, speaking of all that kinda stuff, let’s backtrack to me being in Colorado. Sure. Wheeling and down the San Juan Mountains. I’m gonna be in the state of our guest, Brad Lovell, who is our friend in racer who is also,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 31s):

You mean my buddy that cruises me around the southern California desert named his

Sean P. Holman (3m 35s):

Bronco

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 35s):

Di Bronco. Dr. Yeah. The desert racer at a hundred miles an hour floating over. Whoops. Yep.

Sean P. Holman (3m 39s):

Got the, the ANS oil plastered all over the side of that thing. So he’s getting ready for Vegas to Reno. He’s got some other stuff going on. He just got back from the Fink race in Australia for the second year in a row. And I’m dying to find out if he won it again because could you imagine how upset they must be that this dude come like parachutes in, wins a race and then goes home,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 58s):

Not because they pride themselves on that race. Absolutely. That’s a big deal down there.

Sean P. Holman (4m 2s):

Absolutely. So we’ll get, we’ll get Brad on the show, but first we have to think Nissan our presenting sponsor who’s been with us since the beginning, Nissan, is purveyor a very fine pickup trucks like the Nissan Frontier. So if you are looking for a brand new truck to replace that old jalopy that’s rotting away in your driveway or returning to earth in your back 40, head on down to your local Nissan dealer. Or you can build and price at Nissan usa dot com. Frontier is one of the bestselling mid-sized pickups out there. And you’ve got legendary Nissan reliability, durability, and it’s just a great truck that we really love.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 35s):

If you’ve got a 2011 to 2016 Durmax, guess what? GM has discontinued your hot side boosters.

Sean P. Holman (4m 43s):

So I saw that post and I’m not sure that they’re allowed to do that because there is a law that states that you have to support vehicles for X amount of years. Is this a supplier thing? Is it a superseded part?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 56s):

Or don’t

Sean P. Holman (4m 56s):

Know? Is it part of a bigger package?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 58s):

Here’s what happened. We got a call from two Mechanics, I guess they were like on Facebook, I suppose, and they said, dude, thank God you guys carry the boost tubes. ’cause GM discontinued them. And we’re like, that’s, there’s no way, those are trucks that are fairly current, right? Yeah. 2011 to 2016. Right. That doesn’t make any sense. So I go on Rock Auto. No, they don’t have ’em. I go on GM parts direct, don’t have ’em. I call up, I have Rick, our purchasing agent look up gm Epic, which is how we buy all of our wholesale GM parts for all of our AC Delco, stuff like that. They don’t have ’em. I’m like, okay, maybe it’s a massive supplier screw up. But I will tell you right now, you can’t get one. You can’t get them All right. Fair. Fair. So whether it’s discontinued or not, if you have a 2011 to 2016 duramax, dude, if that boost tube, that rubber coupler, that’s a top on the hot side, which is the turbo, the the Compressor outlet, you should get yourself some insurance by heading over to Banks Power dot com and buying some three and a half inch diameter boost tube upgrades.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 59s):

It’s great insurance and it’ll improve your throttle response. Head over to Banks Power dot com to buy yours.

Sean P. Holman (6m 4s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 26s):

And you were talking earlier about avoiding chips to your windshield and the nose of your hood. The way to avoid chips is by heading over to et EGR USA dot com and pick it up yourself. A hood guard. They’re incredibly durable and they, they deflect all those rocks from hitting the leading edge of your hood and bugs you. How about bug bugs too? Sure. They do bugs, but the bugs don’t leave chips. They leave goo. But you can wipe the goo off. Yeah. The chips are what bugs? Because you can’t Oh, that was weird. The

Sean P. Holman (6m 53s):

Chips are what? Bug?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 54s):

Yeah, I got it. The chips are wood. I see what

Sean P. Holman (6m 56s):

You

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 56s):

Can’t get ’em off. You gotta, we get one of those cheesy paint puns from the dealer and those paint work. You

Sean P. Holman (6m 60s):

Don’t, you don’t do that if you get EGR product.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 2s):

That’s exactly right. Anyway, head over to EGR USA dot com to get your Hood Guard

2 (7m 7s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer What The truck, Because truck rides with The truck show. We have the lifted We. have the lowered and everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show. Oh,

3 (7m 39s):

It’s The truck show with your hosts, Lightning and Holman.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 48s):

Oh, and you? Cool. If we call my best buddy in the whole world, Brad Lovell.

Sean P. Holman (7m 52s):

Yeah, let’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 53s):

Do it. All right.

Brad Lovell (8m 0s):

This is Brad.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 2s):

Mr. Brad Lovell. It’s Lightning in Holman with The Truck. Show Podcast. How you do what’s happening?

Brad Lovell (8m 7s):

Good. How are you guys?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 9s):

We’re we’re awesome. Hey, we have a quick Intro to play as we do so often. Don’t move.

3 (8m 13s):

Here we go. Truck. Famous, hero star. VIP, ACE Bigwig. Hot shot truck. Famous big shot. Big deal. Big gun. Big cheese. Heavyweight superstar truck. Famous. That’s what you are.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 29s):

There it is. Truck famous. Mr. Brad. Lovell.

Sean P. Holman (8m 32s):

Although I’ve got a bone to pick with Mr. Brad. Lovell.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 35s):

Wait, why? What do I do? Wait, we’re gonna start off with a, on a negative note. I

Sean P. Holman (8m 38s):

Just gotta get it outta the air. It’s been weighing heavy on my, on my chest here. Is

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 41s):

This gonna go bad? Is he gonna hang up on us? What are you, what are you getting at?

Sean P. Holman (8m 44s):

I’m just mad. He gave you a ride in the Bronco, Dr. Not me. That’s all.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 47s):

Nah, you could, you were outta town. I was outta town. You schmuck. I told you. Sure. You don’t wanna go. That was awesome, Brad. I I owe you a, a big thanks and a beer because that was so much fun going around on the Dr and dude, we were, he was flying, I think it was topped out like I think it was 97 miles an hour or whatever. Nice. Maybe, maybe went a little bit faster, but floating,

Sean P. Holman (9m 9s):

Let’s just call it a hundred.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 10s):

Floating over the desert surface. Just

Sean P. Holman (9m 13s):

Did you see somebody posted a dealership? I wanna say it was about two weeks ago and there’s a brand new Bronco Dr. Still in their showroom. And it was like a, I don’t, I can’t even remember. It’s like a $400,000 or something like that. That’s about

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 26s):

What it is.

Sean P. Holman (9m 26s):

And and they had it for like a $5,000 discount. They’re like $5,000 off our Bronco, Dr. Limited. You know, so funny. The

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 33s):

Guy funny who’s gonna spend 400 k is does not care about five

Sean P. Holman (9m 36s):

Grand. No, I think that’s why it was going around the internet. ’cause everybody was laughing like really?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 40s):

Like I mean, that’s already the 400 grand is already discretionary income. You know what I mean unless there’s some jackass that thinks he’s gonna make a business of it. You know, it’s like I’m gonna buy this Bronco dr and I’m gonna raise it down. I’m gonna get sponsor money and make a bunch of money. Like that’s, but that’s not a good business plan.

Sean P. Holman (9m 54s):

No, no. Which which is, which is why the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 57s):

Fastest way to lose 400 grand. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (9m 59s):

We know the fastest way to make a million dollars racing right by a boat. No, start with 2 million. No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 5s):

I was, I was purposely confusing. The boat one. Is there a boat one? No.

Sean P. Holman (10m 8s):

Yeah. The one where it’s the the best day. and what is it?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 11s):

The, the, what are the, what’s the best day in boat ownership? Yeah. And it’s buying

Sean P. Holman (10m 14s):

It, buying and selling it. Selling it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 15s):

There you go. Not buying it. Exactly.

Sean P. Holman (10m 17s):

So Brad, you’ve been, you’ve been busy lately. Not only did you take Lightning for a, a Lightning lap in the Bronco, Dr. But didn’t you just get back from doing the Fink race again this year?

Brad Lovell (10m 28s):

Yeah, absolutely. Did you win again? Any day’s a good day out in the desert, but yeah. Out in Australia. Yeah, it was, we had quite the battle going with and we ended up coming out on top. So Dude Cody. Yeah, that was a definitely a, a big deal for us. We, we were running the Ranger Raptor down there with Ford. Ford Performance. Yeah. We had a battle. There was a, this guy Craig Lowndes, who is a, a pretty big deal over there in Australia. He is a, one of the supercar drivers over there, which is kinda like their equivalent for nascar. He was running a Chevy with a, a ringer navigator that has been something like 400 WRC starts.

Brad Lovell (11m 9s):

We, we kind of, we didn’t do too much research on those guys before we went over there because we didn’t wanna be intimidated, but we, we ended up talking to him during the race, you know, hey you bench racing at any of these deals. And it’s great to get to know people like that, but they definitely gave us a run for our money. But yeah, we up coming out on top. So super win, dude, congrat

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 31s):

You that had to, that had to just the piss off the ACEs.

Sean P. Holman (11m 36s):

Well, and I believe that range of Raptor that he raced down there is a, was that a right hand drive truck too?

Brad Lovell (11m 43s):

Yeah, yeah. No

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 43s):

Way. The truck. No way. That’s going to a boxing match beating Muhammad Ali with one hand tied behind your back or, or that’s hilarious.

Sean P. Holman (11m 52s):

Or or at least going to the octagon and bringing your boxing ring with you. Right.

Brad Lovell (11m 58s):

Well I I think the reason why we did so well is I was the only one driving on the opposite side of the course thinking I was still in the us you know, the whoops are beat down a little bit more over there. But yeah, it’s, it’s very interesting driving that vehicle. And we had it over here for the Baja 1020 22 and, and we raced it down in Baja and went down there and then it got shipped back over to Australia. So it’s had quite a storied life. Tell you it’s easier running on the course on the right side of the vehicle than it is running on the street. ’cause you don’t have to worry about your turn signals so much. Which by the way are reversed as well.

Sean P. Holman (12m 36s):

Are they on the outside of the steering column?

Brad Lovell (12m 39s):

Yeah. So,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 40s):

You know. No, that’s stupid. Stop that on you Australians cut that out.

Brad Lovell (12m 46s):

The only thing they didn’t do is reverse, reversed in the brake

Sean P. Holman (12m 49s):

In the shifter. So the the shifter still in the same block

Brad Lovell (12m 52s):

In the shift? Well no, it’s, well it’s on the you gotta use your left hand.

Sean P. Holman (12m 56s):

Yeah. Which is weird.

Brad Lovell (12m 57s):

But, but, but they didn’t reverse the gear ratio at least. But yeah, it’s, it’s always exciting to, to figure that stuff out. Can you imagine

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 4s):

If they had put the brake on the right?

Sean P. Holman (13m 7s):

No, Oh. my god. Well, okay, so, so Brad, I’ll tell you my biggest mind f of driving overseas was I went to the UK on a, on a Range Rover Drive and they gave me a Range Rover sport at the airport and then directions to drive to the hotel. And I’m like, well I’ve never driven here before. Oh no, but check this out. It was a German Range Rover, so it was left hand drive. So I was in a left hand drive car

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 35s):

On the rock. On the

Sean P. Holman (13m 36s):

Right? Yeah, on the, on the left hand side of the road.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 38s):

Oh, so you’re skimming the curb on the whole left side. Dude, dude, dude,

Sean P. Holman (13m 41s):

It’s crazy the whole time I’m just thinking, alright, you’re the middle of the road is the middle of the road no matter what side you’re I mean. It was And

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 47s):

Are you, were you worried about doors opening up, I guess? No, there would’ve been the passenger door opening up. Like

Sean P. Holman (13m 52s):

No, it, it wasn’t that like you could drive that way and it was okay, the thing that messes you up is traffic circles. I had to use all the computing power pa possible to navigate a left hand drive car in a right hand or right side road country. And then you add in a traffic circle and you’re going, ugh, I mean, there’s times where I’m like, I I’m not even gonna turn. I’m gonna go up here and make a U-turn just so I don’t mess this

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 16s):

Up. I’m guessing you were more alert during that trip than in the last 500 trips you’ve gone to anywhere in

Sean P. Holman (14m 23s):

The us No, Dr. Pepper, anywhere in inside.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 25s):

It’s just like, I cannot crash, cannot crush, cannot

Sean P. Holman (14m 26s):

Crash. Yeah, dude, it was, it was weird. Yeah, it was, it was definitely one of those trips where you’re like, I I hope I can do this. And it, you know, a couple days you’re, you’re fine. Like we drove in New Zealand when the new wranglers came out and we drove left hand drive cars down there and of course it’s a right hand side country and so it, it takes some getting used to, you can do it, but it definitely requires all the brain power. Why is

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 48s):

It so arbitrary? Some countries are right hand, some countries are

Sean P. Holman (14m 50s):

Left most with islands. Hmm. If you think about it. Yeah, I guess there, there’s a few that aren’t islands, but Jap, Japan, Australia, uk.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 60s):

Why though? What does it have to do with living on an island? They can only go around the island clockwise

Sean P. Holman (15m 3s):

Or something. I don’t have to listen. Islands that have their own like species and things that grow up, they just did it different. They all kept it. I don’t know.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 11s):

So they’re like iguanas that are like,

Sean P. Holman (15m 14s):

Yes, they’re like Galapagos raptors over there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 16s):

Right.

Sean P. Holman (15m 18s):

Or, or left. I don’t know.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 19s):

They’ve evolved their own way. ’cause they’re, because they don’t interact with other species. Yeah. According to Darwin. Yeah, of

Sean P. Holman (15m 24s):

Course. But then how do all the islands know to coordinate like that? I don’t know.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 28s):

This is weird. We’re off

Sean P. Holman (15m 29s):

Track here. Just be honest. Well, we’re all, is Brad still on the phone now?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 32s):

He’s tired of us.

Brad Lovell (15m 33s):

What?

Sean P. Holman (15m 34s):

So you’ve got Vegas Torino coming up and so that’s gonna be August 16th I believe. What are you driving out there?

Brad Lovell (15m 41s):

Yeah, so that’s, that’s definitely the next big race that we’re planning for. And we’re gonna take that Bronco Dr. Out again and see what we can do in the us. Very stoked. We’ve been working to it. It’s gone on its own little road show. It went out to Dearborn, it went out to Phoenix. It’s been at my place in Colorado now it’s back out in California, but it’s all set and ready to go. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (16m 3s):

It’s it’s out in California. Vegas is Torino. Can I, can I borrow it for a couple days? Yeah. Yep. No, I’ll bring it back Clean.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 10s):

Do you have a hundred thousand dollars deposit?

Sean P. Holman (16m 12s):

Full take of gas? I’ll buy the insurance.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 15s):

You can’t afford the insurance

Brad Lovell (16m 16s):

Actually a $400,000 deposit.

Sean P. Holman (16m 20s):

All of it. That’s, that seems steep. That would be the Bronco dr. That has AMS oil plastered along the side of it. Right?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 27s):

Oh see Yeah. The, the desert racer. Right. I wanted to ask you, so I’m glad you brought up AMS oil Holman. I, how many quarts have been run through that Dr. Since you started racing it? Like

Sean P. Holman (16m 38s):

It’s funny, he hasn’t done an oil change yet because of AMS oil’s, extended drain intervals. Oh, it so good.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 42s):

Got it. Yeah, it’s clean as a whistle.

Brad Lovell (16m 45s):

You know, that’s interesting because we did, we did run AMS oil in it and we replaced the oil after Nora and everything gets sent off for oil analysis and all that, all the fluids. And I haven’t seen the report back. I don’t know if I could understand it if I did. We do have fresh AMS oil in it ready for Vegas to Reno and it’s always a gnarly one because we’re out in central Nevada in August. Yeah. So you can imagine how, how hot it is

Sean P. Holman (17m 13s):

And dirt thermal management with that DR

Brad Lovell (17m 15s):

Company.

Sean P. Holman (17m 16s):

Yeah.

Brad Lovell (17m 17s):

Oh yeah. In no ac So it, it certainly crossed my mind what the fluids are going through in that vehicle when I’m sitting in the, in the cab there and, you know, a hundred, 110 degree heat. The So what’s the headers are glowing red hot.

Sean P. Holman (17m 33s):

What’s the thermal management for you? Brad

Brad Lovell (17m 38s):

Well.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 38s):

It just takes AMS oil and doubts himself with AMS oil,

Sean P. Holman (17m 42s):

AMS oil, body chiller,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 44s):

Bathes in it.

Sean P. Holman (17m 45s):

I, I remember racing Baja when you’d get, you just get so hot in the car you’d start sweating and then you just unzip the top of your race suit and let the air come and cool you off that way.

Brad Lovell (17m 55s):

Yeah. I mean it, it definitely is gnarly and, and hydration is a huge factor. And in all seriousness, you know, like down at the Baja 500 that, that’s really hot over in the San Fe Bay area. People have, have definitely succumbeded to, to getting too hot. So hydrating beforehand is really important. And you know, we carry camelbacks in the car and every pit stop or slamming water.

Sean P. Holman (18m 19s):

I was gonna ask if you were using Camelbacks or something else. ’cause I, I saw some of the trophy truck guys or some of the other racers have like that pressurized stainless steel water system that they they’re using that keeps it cold I guess too.

Brad Lovell (18m 33s):

Yeah, so we’ve, we’ve messed around with, with some of that with drink pumps and, you know, cooling canisters and stuff like that. Honestly, you just gotta grin and bear it, you know, desert racing is not, is not wine cheese track racing to be honest with you. So some of it you gotta drink grin and bear it, but water’s water get it in you. And the the real key I’ll tell you is don’t stop. Because if you have to stop and get out of The truck and change a tire and be down by the brakes and ugh, the lug nuts are hot and you can get overheated really quick.

Sean P. Holman (19m 9s):

That’s why I always like to race at night. It’s, I just, I love night racing. To me, it’s one of my favorite things. It’s just, it, the terrain’s different obviously the yeah, the dust and the trail’s different and you have to read the terrain and shadows. You have to have a really good light system on it, but it’s also a lot cooler and you don’t have sun in your eyes. You know, I just, I love night racing. Yeah. And so does

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 28s):

Vegas Torino involve night racing?

Brad Lovell (19m 30s):

Yeah, So, we will, our, you know, anytime we do something like this, you gotta go through a whole logistics plan and spreadsheet and estimated times and this and that. So I think we’ll start around 11:00 AM and that’ll put us into the night for about two hours and we’re actually splitting the drive up. A good buddy of mine who’s done a lot of co-driving with me in the 6,100 that we’ve campaigned for AMS oil, Jason Hutter, he’s gonna be taking over for the last 200 miles of the race. So he’s gonna be the one that gets that cool night air. But he also gets, oh there’s all these nasty embedded rocks right at the end of Vegas Torino between the last pit that’s there near Dayton.

Brad Lovell (20m 13s):

That’s

Sean P. Holman (20m 13s):

A super rough course. Vegas Torino is no joke. I’ve, I’ve raced a couple times, been out with Chad Hall when he was racing the first gen Colorado or the first version of his race truck. And I, I think that thing had 30 ones or 30 threes on it. So not a huge tire. And you’re picking yourself through the rock garden and stuff like that. I mean there’s some big stuff out on that race course.

Brad Lovell (20m 35s):

Yeah, that’s, that’s no joke. And one thing that I’ve definitely learned in, in my career racing with BFG, there’s been an old saying floating around that company for years and that’s bigger tire, smaller desert. And I think it’s been proven to me that that’s certainly a remedy. So we’ll be running 30 sevens on the Bronco dr same size tire that comes on the, the Bronco Raptors. But that definitely pays off, fills in every hole and makes every rock a little bit smaller out there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 3s):

What’s the average speed during the day versus at night? I’m just curious.

Brad Lovell (21m 9s):

Ah, that’s, you know, that’s an interesting question because honestly, some of the hardest times I think there are racing is right when you have sunlight kind of directly above you because you can’t read the variation in terrain. And, and the game of off-road racing is how fast you and your vehicle can make it through that terrain. Like forget about the competition, but it makes it kind of hard to judge when the sun’s right above you. So everything you’re talking about racing at night, you have lights shining out, casting shadows in the holes. Now granted you can’t see in the holes, but you sure know where they are and there’s also a lot less distraction around you at night. So I, I think that speeds are maybe a little bit slower at night.

Brad Lovell (21m 52s):

But I’m with you. I I love racing at night.

Sean P. Holman (21m 54s):

I I think it’s more peaceful, you know, it’s, it’s, so I and you’ve you’ve raced Baja stuff. You’re, you’ve driven, I’ve been in the, in the right seat. But you get into your groove and at night it feels like people are more spread out, you know, where everybody is. ’cause you can see ’em a lot further out. ’cause You know what you can see the lights and things like that, you know, if somebody’s coming up. Whereas during the day you don’t always necessarily know somebody’s right behind you and Yeah. Color on you, but you get in that groove, it’s a little bit cooler and you kind of just, I don’t know, I just feel like you get this tunnel vision at night and you kind of just can cruise.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 24s):

You get tunnel vision no matter where you’re riding.

Sean P. Holman (22m 26s):

That’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 27s):

Probably, you know, so the only time that I’ve done anything at night, not racing, but just like out in the desert at any kind of a good clip has been at glam. And I’ll say with that, that is scary as hell because there, it’s the moonlight at best and you don’t know how big any of the dropoffs are. So because you don’t have

Sean P. Holman (22m 46s):

Shadows, You know what were you in a, a rail?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 47s):

Yeah, I was in a rail. Did you? Side by side. Did you have a

Sean P. Holman (22m 49s):

Lot of lights on it? Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 50s):

But the problem is the lights are going forward and if there is a drop off, even if it’s only two feet, it could be 30 feet, you don’t know, you can’t see over

Sean P. Holman (22m 58s):

It. Well you shouldn’t be on a rose that could have 30 foot drop

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 1s):

Offs. I’m just, but you seems know, I I I’m saying like you, you can’t gauge how big any of this stuff is unless I guess you pre-run it and then you, you, you know, which is part of

Sean P. Holman (23m 10s):

Why you wanna pre-run it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 11s):

Okay. So if you pre-run it, then you know that you’ve, I guess you’ve marked anything that’s like a giant pothole or a drop off or something. But like that is the scariest thing for me driving any of my driving experiences have been, except for my guy in the GTR, which I told you a couple weeks back. Yeah. That was the scariest. But second to the, the GTR where I had no control was glamorous in a sand car or on side by side going full throttle. And literally the guy that I was with, like, no, no, no, we will be safer and just skies it off and just, and then we, and I don’t know if we’re gonna lawn dart and die or we’re just gonna land, you know, in a cushion of sand.

Sean P. Holman (23m 44s):

No, no. Gratuitous death allowed. Yeah. If I, that’s that, if I had a race car on my dash, it would be two stickers. One would say no airbags, we die like real men Right under it. There’d be asterisk and it would say no gratuitous death. Okay. Gratuitous. This would be my two. I’m gonna go see Gratuitous death later tonight. I think they’re playing late. No, no, I manage that band. We’re, we’re not touring right now. Oh really? Oh, you broke ’em up? Yeah. Yeah. I I I wa how ironic I gave them gratuitous death. Oh yeah, yeah. That’s what I see happening. Hey Brad, I’m kind of curious, you have raced all sorts of different stuff, obviously right now we’re talking about the ranger of Raptor, which is more like a, like a stock mini sort of a, a class and then the DR is kind of almost touching trophy truckish, you know, it’s a full tube frame and a high-end suspension and all that.

Sean P. Holman (24m 30s):

It sure sounds like a trophy truck. What, what’s your favorite thing to, to race? Do you like the full built race trucks or do you like the, the production based stuff

Brad Lovell (24m 38s):

That, you know, that’s a real interesting question and I think that’s a broad topic for me. What keeps me motivated in racing the most is the adventure behind it. I, I can compare it to short course racing where it’s all out adrenaline and trying to get a door on people and just smash ’em off the line and I love it. And you gotta amp yourself up for it. It’s like a boxing match. We did that for a lot of years and absolutely loved it. Conversely, racing a stock class truck in the BA 1000, you’re surviving the fastest and you better have everything sorted out, all your plans made, all your spare parts and, and it’s definitely a more tactical thing, you know, king of the Hammers is kinda the same way.

Brad Lovell (25m 20s):

You know, there’s a million ways that things can go wrong in King of the Hammers. I love going fast. I, the funnest thing I’ve ever driven is our spect trophy truck flying over whoops. In San Felipe. But what keeps me coming back is the challenge in the chess match of figuring out how to survive the fastest. So I I don’t necessarily like getting my kidneys beat in on, on every bump in stock class vehicles. Yeah. But these raptors are becoming so adept at the desert and, and people don’t understand what they can do. And you, you can push those things really hard and I, I’m fortunate to get, you know, a bunch of seat time testing and racing those.

Brad Lovell (26m 1s):

So I, I take a lot of pride in in doing that. And, and I love the, the chess game of figuring out how to survive the fastest.

Sean P. Holman (26m 10s):

So does it come down to the old simple adage better to drive a slow car fast or a fast car slow?

Brad Lovell (26m 18s):

Wait, I gotta think of the fast car slow. Well no, you gotta go

Sean P. Holman (26m 22s):

Fast car fast, fastest the

Brad Lovell (26m 23s):

Car will go right? I guess it’s the fast car fast, but you know, really the challenge, like I say in in short course racing, you’re battling other trucks out there and desert racing, it’s you and your vehicle versus the desert for sure. And then, you know, that combination, if you figure it out, if you know that vehicle and, and you can really make it dance. And I, you know, i, I do training out there in the desert and one of the guys that that came out, he came out in a rental car and just on the way out to the, the training facility, he’s like weaving and dodging and staying up on the crown and watching out for bumps and it’s like, hey man, you know, you’re killing it ’cause he’s getting the most that he can out of that vehicle.

Brad Lovell (27m 6s):

Yeah. And, and that’s to me the art of, of racing. And believe me, I have a ton of respect for the guys that are doing that in the most cutting edge vehicles. But one place where I haven’t had fun racing is when when you’re out-priced and it it can become sour really quick. So I, I like playing where, you know, where it’s, it’s comfortable and, and you know, everybody’s got a different budget and I’ve played at a lot of different budget levels, but right up to the point that that I can’t afford it is where I’m having fun.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (27m 43s):

So rather there’s a couple different styles of racing, whether it’s nascar, formula One, whatever, and some is just around a track and you’re trying to beat the guy next to you, literally door to door. But then there’s a lot of the off-road racing is time-based. Correct. So do you like racing where you take off at the starting line kinda like a Supercross for example. Everyone leaves the gate at exactly the same time you get the whole shot, but maybe you fall and the guy passes you, you know, that type of thing. Yeah. As opposed to time-based, like you are all taking off at different times and someone’s hitting the stopwatch as everyone goes across one by one and you’re kind of on your own, right? Technically you’re out there with other people on the race course, but you’re in your own class, you have a time to beat.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (28m 27s):

What style of racing do you prefer and why?

Brad Lovell (28m 31s):

You know, to me, I’m not a showman and I have spent plenty of time doing land rush starts at Crandon and I, I can remember Bryce Menzie saying, you know, Bryce has raised all kinds of stuff and he says there is nothing as intense as doing a land rush start at Crandon. And he is right. ’cause you sit there forever and, and they have 17 big race trucks lined up and you get a hundred mile run at a, a receding going down a hill right hand turn that’s kind of blind. And unless you’re the first one or two trucks into that turn, you’re getting rocks thrown at you. You can’t see anything I mean. It’s, it’s horrifying and I, I love doing that.

Brad Lovell (29m 12s):

But as a racer, the more races I do, I think the more I become mature about racing. And as a racer, I like the idea of purity of the sport. And, and that comes through staggered starts like King of the Hammers. They do two cars every 30 seconds and that throws everybody out there at once. And I, I guess I like that if I’m in front of the group, if I qualify well, but really what I like is, you know, the, the longer gap you can get there the better you have equal odds to the guy leading in that, that dust column. And, and it seems weird, but the further you move up in that dust column, the faster you’re going.

Brad Lovell (29m 55s):

So the, the lead car on course, he has his own challenges and, and that’s why I think it’s important that those guys have a chopper because there could be other people on course, you know, who knows what kind of hazards they’re facing. But the further you go up in that dust column, the faster you’re naturally gonna go. And if you’re sitting in the back, there’s, there’s not much to do. And I’ve tried to fight it and I had lots of time to think about it when I was upside down in a tree. So not doing that again.

Sean P. Holman (30m 24s):

Well it’s funny ’cause you going through sort of your thought process on that stuff. I don’t know if you know, if, I guess if our listeners, our regulars have gotten to know you a little bit ’cause we’ve had you on several times. But just to remind people, one of the things that kind of sets you apart from other drivers is, is you have kind of in a sense become a wheelman. It doesn’t matter what the discipline because you’ve won a championship in rock crawling, you’ve run championships in ultra force short co course racing. You’ve won in Desert Point to point off-road racing. You’ve won in trophy trucks and in production vehicle I mean you’ve you’ve been lucky enough to really drive almost everything competitively.

Sean P. Holman (31m 5s):

It’s pretty amazing. Except for Vespas, I don’t recall seeing anything about Vespas. That’s because we don’t talk about that. He took that off his bio. Oh, the is like, yeah,

Brad Lovell (31m 13s):

I I will tell you that I got to Test Drive in an off road snowmobile out at King of the Hammers one time that has competed in Vegas Torino. So, okay,

Sean P. Holman (31m 24s):

That’s weird. Yeah. You know, okay.

Brad Lovell (31m 26s):

Yeah, yeah. And it was fast. But you know, the thing is, a lot of these, these opportunities, they didn’t turn up overnight and for many, many years, the only vehicle I ever drove was the vehicle that that we built, that my brother and I built. So, you know, really it, it kind of points out a little bit You know what, what drives me. I like the challenge. I like new things. I don’t, I don’t wanna be stagnant and sit in one spot and, you know, win a race 20 times over. I, I like new challenges. And the problem is they get bigger and they get more expensive and you know, if I have a, everything comes to me, it’s, I, I forget where I got the terminology, but it’s a wild, crazy dream.

Brad Lovell (32m 7s):

You know, you have what you’re doing now, what you want to do in your wild, crazy dream. And for me right now, my wild crazy dream, I want go run the car. That’s, that’s, that’s always been a race that fascinates me. And I I agree. I I think a lot of people think I should do it, but a lot of people think I should pay for it too, which

Sean P. Holman (32m 26s):

Well is that, so, so do you hesitate when your phone rings with an unknown number now or do you jump on it immediately?

Brad Lovell (32m 35s):

It depends on the location. I think it’s some no name town in Colorado I’ve learned it’s probably a spam call. But you know, I I just think, you know, you gotta set yourself up whatever you’re doing in life, these wild, crazy dreams and then you take steps toward that. And I, I don’t know if I’ll get there or not, but it’s certainly something that that fascinates me.

Sean P. Holman (32m 57s):

I I think you’re definitely gonna get there. I, you know, one of the things that is fascinating to me is looking over your career and you’ve been racing since the early two thousands and you were the 2012 dirt sports driver of the year and you’ve gotten accolades and championships and trophies and checkered flags and all that good stuff along the way. We’re

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (33m 12s):

Really blowing up his dress, aren’t we? Well,

Sean P. Holman (33m 15s):

But, but here’s, here’s the thing. You, you’ve been a member of Team AMS oil, so obviously AMS oil supports the show. Yeah. And, and they’ve supported you since 2005. And I just wanted to say like, that is not a normal thing in, in racing and in corporate sponsorships that somebody would stay with the same company for decades. And I, I, I think that’s truly impressive and something worth worth mentioning.

Brad Lovell (33m 41s):

You’re right. And I, I owe so much of my career to AMS oil and you know, it’s certainly not just to check I, I approached AMS oil about a sponsorship way back in, in 2004 and it took time and eventually we won enough races and we’re doing enough things that we got a, a product sponsorship. But I, I did it because I saw the, the authenticity and like the value and there’s a lot of focus on, on quality in the company. And it’s, it’s not a marketing company, it’s a company dedicated to making the best products.

Brad Lovell (34m 21s):

And I’m, I’m very thankful to be involved with AMS oil and, and to consider ’em part of our racing family. So I owe so much to them. And it, and it’s not just through support of our team, it’s through quality products and, and running the best oil out there. And people always ask me like, Hey, hey, you know, did fix your problems with this or that? And it’s like, eh, I never really had those problems ’cause I’ve been running my

Sean P. Holman (34m 47s):

Whole

Brad Lovell (34m 47s):

Career.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (34m 48s):

Touche. I I think a lot of people don’t realize that it’s the aios company. Yeah. Like this is not some big board of directors. This is not some big mobile one. Not that that’s bad, but I’m just like, it’s not, this is, it’s their name on the product and I, you know, yeah. It’s no secret that I work for Gail Banks. It’s literally his last name on every single product we make. And AMS amio, it’s no secret that that’s their name baked into it’s AMS oil. And so they’re only gonna put it out, whatever the product is, whether it’s a degreaser, whether it’s a grease, an oil, fully synthetic, whatever, it will sully their name if it’s not the best it can be.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 28s):

So I, I think that matters.

Sean P. Holman (35m 31s):

I think relationships matter too, right? I mean that’s, it’s, there’s a lot of companies who, their philosophy is we’ll stick with somebody for a season or two, but we like doing different things. And so that’s all it’s gonna be. So to see the, those lasting relationships are, are pretty special. And I mean you, I guess you could say that with you and Ford as well. I mean you were a Ford person, just an enthusiast racing Ford bodied vehicles or Ford vehicles early on and, and your son’s got one and, and now you’re actually racing for Ford performance and doing things with Bronco and development stuff. And it’s pretty awesome to see that side of it flourish as

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (36m 6s):

Well. When I was, when he took me out in the Dr the Ford guys from, from Ford. Ford, not like some hired guns, they worked at Ford. Yep. They were literally crawling all over, taking all of the, the GPS data and like temperature probes out of it and all this stuff. And it was really neat to be like, I saw kind of a glimpse of a, a day in the life of, of Brad Lovell like with all the Ford team. It was cool. It’s

Sean P. Holman (36m 27s):

A lot of sitting.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (36m 29s):

A lot of sitting. Yeah. You

Brad Lovell (36m 30s):

Yeah. You know what I’ve learned is as soon as you stop all the engineers come over say you can’t stop, you just gotta keep going or stop far enough away that they can’t come get all the data or it slows everything down. But yeah. You know, we’ve, we’ve always been a, a Ford family and that’s it. It’s an interesting story. That’s kind of how my, my racing career started when I was a kid. I wanted nothing more than to have a CJ five and my dad would not get me a CJ five dog on it because he said they roll over and it’s probably right looking at standards now. But, but what’s interesting is he got my brother a Bronco two, so I don’t know. But in any case, I ended up with a, with a Ford Ranger and, and that caused me to, you know, I wanted to go make a rock crawler and go do all this cool stuff, but it, it caused my brother and I to have to develop a lot of those parts ourselves and, you know, we’re an interesting lot.

Brad Lovell (37m 24s):

We never wanted to develop that stuff and sell it to other people. We just wanted to develop it and, and make it cool for ourselves. So, you know, we’ve always been Ford people and for a lot of, a lot of years it was tough. I can remember being out on the lake bed at King of the Hammers having an engine problem with a Ford engine and every pit down the way has spare LS parts but nobody had a Ford stuff. So it’s kind of turning around. But Ford has had a lot of success out there and it’s definitely been one of the highlights of my career for sure. To be involved with forward, forward performance Bronco and, and all that stuff. And, and to see what’s coming next, which I, I could talk to you about but I wouldn’t be part of it anymore.

Brad Lovell (38m 4s):

So

Sean P. Holman (38m 5s):

I know that story. Ho hopefully I’ll see you there maybe at some point, right?

Brad Lovell (38m 11s):

Absolutely. We’ll have you out.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (38m 13s):

I wanna read something from Brad’s Facebook page. A dated July 21st. We went looking for adventure, ran out of gas, killed two alternators, destroyed a Wheel bearing stole.

Sean P. Holman (38m 25s):

And this is why we’ll never race a Chevy

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (38m 27s):

Hold. On a second, destroyed a Wheel bearing, stolen credit card, dodged some rainstorms, but caught in others and had a harrowing near miss on the highway. Found some new trails and have never been before and found a glimpse of the beauty that makes me still love Colorado. Yeah. Very thankful that things went the way they did. So like what was that story?

Brad Lovell (38m 51s):

You know how I said that, you know, adventure is what keeps me grounded, keeps me interested sometimes maybe you don’t set yourself up with the best odds and and

Sean P. Holman (39m 4s):

We’ve had

Brad Lovell (39m 5s):

Trips like that I mean on, on one hand I’m, I’m doing logistics for Ford performance for the Baja 1000. On the other hand, I’m going up in the, the mountains with my kids and, and you don’t make, sometimes you just don’t make plans to see what happens. So my son Adam, he just took out his version two of his ranger. He, the first one died a a long multi-day death and Moab over spring break. So he found ano another one and found an $800 ranger and took the cab and the bed and put all the parts together and he finally got it done. So, this is a maiden voyage on that. And I have a 46 Willie’s Jeep that I built when I was about his age So.

Brad Lovell (39m 48s):

we took those two vehicles and off we go into the mountains and, and yeah, it was a bit interesting the the first alternator failure. You know, they, I’ll tell you the kids, both my sons ATO and buy ’em, they’re really smart and they know what they’re doing on cars. But every car, I call it new car blues, you gotta go through ’em. And the, the terminal for the, the charge terminal and the alternator grounded out on the case. I, I don’t know if the ring terminal was a little bit big, but that caused a, a small mess of melty and smelly burny bits. So, we were, we were up in the mountains So, we went back down to auto zone and the only alternator they had was a, a remanufactured alternator with grease stains on it.

Brad Lovell (40m 34s):

Oh boy. Which I looked at and it was like, no, I don’t want it ’cause somebody else already had it.

Sean P. Holman (40m 38s):

Right. And, and returned it it back. Yep.

Brad Lovell (40m 41s):

Yeah. It’s like, nope, don’t want it. But it was the only one they had. So what do we do? We put it in, we get, I don’t know, five miles further than we were last time and it dies. So, but the, the good news is about those old vehicles, is it, it seized up So, we popped it free with a wrench and he was able to drive for another two hours with turning off all the electrical systems. You know, those old vehicles don’t use hardly any electricity. So we’d stop and I’d, I’d jump them here and there and sounds

Sean P. Holman (41m 13s):

Awesome.

Brad Lovell (41m 13s):

That’s where we’re going. But yeah.

Sean P. Holman (41m 15s):

Does it have the old flathead in it still?

Brad Lovell (41m 18s):

So this Jeep, I have a 43 that is a hundred percent stock with a flathead and that is absolutely one of my favorite vehicles. This one, I hate to say it, some people are gonna have to close their ears, but it has a Chevy 4.3 vortex

Sean P. Holman (41m 32s):

In it, which is actually a really good interest. So my 42 GPW has an odd fire in it. And my old, okay, my old 51 that I had to sell long ago, my CJ three A had the flathead in it and it was completely tuned and it just ran like a sewing machine. Like I couldn’t believe how how well that thing ran and flat fenders with the original stuff is cool now how much horsepower in that old three A 60? 60? Yeah. And it was called the God Devil engine. Like literally a sewing machine. In fact, that’s why it won the military contract was because the god devil engine, the army was, you know, love the power of it. And so they were like, Ooh, this one has a few more horsepower, we’re gonna go. And back then it made a big deal.

Sean P. Holman (42m 13s):

But the, the 42 GPW with the odd fire and it’s super crusty, the whole thing’s crusty. It’s, that’s still at the metal shop. You’ve been the metal shop for like a year and I’ll get it back home at some point. But you know, the odd fires basically the predecessor to the 4.3 swaps. Right. I mean that’s, those are actually sort of the perfect engines for those things. ’cause the v eights are a little bit too much and the, the, the V six has fit really nice in there and still, you know, don’t cook themselves to death.

Brad Lovell (42m 41s):

So I had one of those odd fires when I built it. I built this thing like in the nineties and I, well I came home from college and I couldn’t find a job. So I figured You know what I’m gonna buy this old pile of junk Jeep. I’m gonna fix it up and sell it. And you can see what, you can see how that worked out. Yeah. You still

Sean P. Holman (42m 57s):

Have it. He’s not a good salesman. No. You fall you fall in love with these things. They’re, they’re like potato chips, you just can’t have one. Right.

Brad Lovell (43m 4s):

So I got an odd fire, I rebuilt it, I put it in there, put a carve on it and it was all right. And then I figured I want fuel injected. Yeah. And you know, I pride myself on not quitting on a lot of things in life, but I quit on that project and that was, maybe it’s 2000, but the, the signal going to the distributor or from the distributor to the, to the fuel injection, it could not make sense of it. And then we tried and tried and tried and eventually capitulated and, and got that 4.3, the

Sean P. Holman (43m 35s):

Four, the 4.3 is

Brad Lovell (43m 36s):

Great So we ran into. Yeah. We ran into another guy up there. You know how Willie’s guys can always sniff each other out? Oh yeah. Well we ran into another one up there and he had the 2 25 and Yep. And we had a look at it and it’s, it’s always good wheeling, you know, there’s so much camaraderie.

Sean P. Holman (43m 52s):

Well it’s funny because the, I think it’s, it’s Howell now makes a fuel injection conversion for those things. And they have the really? Yeah, they have the signal forum ’em, because we had them on the show and we’re talking about it and it’s there, there’s all these people who have bootlegged different signals, whether it was a pickup on the crank or there’s a few different ways to do it. But, but we’re far enough along in life where those things are out there and they’re fuel injected. Ugh. And I’m, I’m telling you, everybody’s like no, you know, put a motorcraft on there or a Quadro jett and I’m still like going, man, that hell EFI system sure would be nice.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44m 32s):

But you haven’t done it,

Sean P. Holman (44m 33s):

Have you? Well, I have, I haven’t, it hasn’t been home for a year. Gotcha. Either. I I gotta go bring it

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44m 36s):

Back. So here’s the better question. Who stole your freaking credit card, Brad? Who would do such a thing?

Brad Lovell (44m 40s):

Oh geez. I, I wish I knew everything was going good until I opened up my wallet and it’s not there. I don’t know what

Sean P. Holman (44m 47s):

Happened. And then you went on your phone and you saw Bronco Dr had been charged to it. You’re like,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44m 51s):

I have one. Oh, so wait a minute. So it could have fallen out. There is a chance that you weren’t pickpocketed It actually, it fell out somewhere.

Brad Lovell (44m 60s):

Yeah. Honestly, I don’t know. It’s one of those things going to gas stations, making charges, this and that. I, maybe I dropped it, who knows. Yeah. I wasn’t worried about it until I started seeing the charges show up.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 10s):

I figured because I read, I’m, I’m reading your post here and it’s just like, I love how it’s all bad, all bad, all bad, all bad. And then you very wells why

Sean P. Holman (45m 18s):

You kept reading it? ’cause you love reading in people’s misery that isn’t your own.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 22s):

And so you kept going but at the end very thankful things went the way they did. So he put the spin on it and got a nice little silky bow and tied it up at the end. You know,

Brad Lovell (45m 30s):

You know what we saw up there. I mean it’s no secret. Colorado’s getting very crowded and we’re, you know, we’re reaching the point that, that people are going up. You can keep your camper in one spot for two weeks a piece. And National Force people are going up and just moving their camper every two weeks and like, it’s, it’s getting very congested. Trails are congested. and what I find on trails, the more people there are there kind of the less friendly people are or the less camaraderie there is. But you know, there’s, there’s a trail system up above Breckenridge and we got up on top there and looked out over, you know, the different passes and the whole valley and you’re on top of the continental divide and there was a mountain goat just hanging out up there and we had lunch up there and, and he was just hanging out the whole time.

Brad Lovell (46m 18s):

And it, it was just a reflection to me. Those are the roads I grew up on as a kid and, and where I first found adventure in off road on my own. And, and that’s why I did it, to see those different things to, to go find new stuff.

Sean P. Holman (46m 34s):

Well then I’m gonna apologize ’cause I’m going to the San Juans next week and I’ll be one of those people from state cruising around your trail system. So I’ll apologize now. Just,

Brad Lovell (46m 44s):

Just, just don’t roll your truck on Black Bear and close the whole thing down.

Sean P. Holman (46m 50s):

Hey, did you know that I am the first person in the world to drive a fully electric vehicle down Black Bear Pass?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (46m 56s):

Is that true? Is true. Really?

Sean P. Holman (46m 57s):

Yep. The Rivian, the Rivian, the R one T during a development drive. Yeah. Wow. So I, I have that claim to fame. I’ve done, I’ve done Black Bear a bunch of times and going out with the, the a EV crew and we’re going to go do San Rafael as swell in, in Utah and then head over to the San Juans and we’re gonna be doing about 600 plus off-Road, miles between the two. Wow. So it should be pretty awesome.

Brad Lovell (47m 18s):

Oh, you’re killing me. That’s, that’s to me that’s what it’s all about. And

Sean P. Holman (47m 23s):

Camping, no hotels, you know, the whole deal

Brad Lovell (47m 25s):

And, and I love going fast off road. I love it. But You know what, there’s a lot, lot of beauty to slowing down and seeing those spectacular places. Oh, for sure. And we’ve done a, we’ve done a trip from kind of the Colorado, Utah border way out through Green River. We did the white Rim trail on the Oh, that’s

Sean P. Holman (47m 43s):

Awesome. Yeah. The San

Brad Lovell (47m 44s):

Field swell.

Sean P. Holman (47m 45s):

Yeah. So good.

Brad Lovell (47m 46s):

And then headed down to San Juan and that was the year, there’s so many avalanches, like every avalanche chute that could fall, fell and Wow.

Sean P. Holman (47m 55s):

I think it was September of 19 or 20, I can’t remember. We were up in the San Juan and it was like, so September in a blizzard came through and it was like the, that one year were the earliest snowfall that had come and we were up on phe and it, we got boxed in by clouds with snow, Lightning and thunder and all the rocks going up the top. Yeah, were iced over and we had to turn around on the trail and take the shelf road down and, and be careful coming back down. ’cause we couldn’t make to the top. It was so icy up there from all the weather. Yeah. We just were losing traction on the, on the, that rocky last bit toward the top. So this time I’m gonna, I’m conquering it, I’m confident in that and, and I gotta, I gotta make that happen.

Sean P. Holman (48m 40s):

So I, I love it out there. I don’t Wheel out there near enough. So I’m excited about it.

Brad Lovell (48m 44s):

But, but You know what I love is the fact that adventure on, on its own scale still exists in this world. And that’s where you find it. You find it on those icy rocks and the snow Lightning and thinking to yourself, You know what we might die time to turn around and, and that leaves something for the next trip to come and conquer.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 2s):

Alright, listen. Hey Brad. So for the Vegas to Reno, how do we follow along on your antics?

Brad Lovell (49m 8s):

Yeah, so, we’ll, you, you know, we have, everybody’s got starlink now. We got a starlink on The truck So. we should be live streaming in some form or fashion through Facebook and Instagram. So definitely on Friday the 16th you said? Yeah, it’s gotta be the 16th. You know, we’ll have all that live stuff going. We’ll be on the AM Amazon Facebook page. Port performance will be doing updates here and there, but we’re really targeting kind of the, the live streaming this time. So there’ll be good coverage and, and Best in the Desert does a lot, they’ll have live timing through each pit. So, you know, keep your eye out on social media for, for some of those adventures.

Brad Lovell (49m 48s):

Awesome. So, and, and maybe we’ll take that trail you’re talking about back down South

Sean P. Holman (49m 52s):

You. know what I Good, I I’d be happy to take you anytime and, and, and show you my, my neck woods sounds amazing. Gotta I’ve got lots of trails out there, including you gotta go, come on a trip with me and we’ll go do the East Mojave Heritage Trail, which is 733 miles of off-roading.

Brad Lovell (50m 6s):

Wow. It’s,

Sean P. Holman (50m 7s):

It’s epic. Yeah. That’s goes all, all four times of

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 10s):

The Mojave by the way, he doesn’t have that kind of time.

Sean P. Holman (50m 12s):

I would make time for Brad. No, no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 13s):

He doesn’t have that kind of time for you. Well,

Sean P. Holman (50m 16s):

I don’t, I don’t have a kind of time either. I’d still make time for ’em.

Brad Lovell (50m 18s):

We just gotta schedule it in between races. Perfect. And get the kids to do the prep work. There you go. Prep work or something. I dunno.

Sean P. Holman (50m 24s):

I love it. Well, I’m, I, the offer’s open. I’d love to take you out in my, my neck of the woods. And then if you guys are from Colorado on the weekend of September 4th. So the fourth through the seventh is the Bronco Super Celebration west. And that’s gonna be at the Buena Vista Rodeo Center in Buena Vista, Colorado. And Brad is going to be there with the Bronco Dr. So you’ll be able to see The truck up close and meet Brad and check it out. So any of you Ford and Bronco fans who are in the Colorado area, make sure you get out there and tell him, The Truck Show Podcast sent to you. And that way he knows that people listen to our show

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 58s):

Are, are you reading that event information on the events page on truck show podcast dot com? I

Sean P. Holman (51m 1s):

Am. Yep. Truck show podcast dot com And then just hit the events tab.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 6s):

Well, Brad,

Brad Lovell (51m 6s):

Yeah, so absolutely. We, we gotta see how that thing comes out of Vegas Torino. It could be a, you know, a pile of a bus to up fiberglass or have there one

Sean P. Holman (51m 14s):

Way or another. I love it. Alright, if you guys wanna follow Brad, it’s, he’s at Brad level 44 on, on the gram. All right.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 21s):

Be fast and be safe, friend.

Brad Lovell (51m 23s):

Yeah. Thank you guys so much for having me on the show. I, I love sitting here BSing with you guys about Offroading. Good stuff.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 28s):

Anytime.

Sean P. Holman (51m 29s):

Thanks brother. We appreciate it. And hopefully I’ll get to see you in person, you know, before Lightning does. Well no, that’s not cool.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 35s):

I heard you.

Sean P. Holman (51m 36s):

I’m sitting, you saw him last time. I haven’t seen him in a while.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 38s):

No, we’re gonna see him together. All right. Gonna let you one up. Me. Okay. I gotta get me some more Brad too. All we’ll, we’ll talk to you soon, Brad. Thank you all.

Brad Lovell (51m 45s):

All right. Thanks guys. Sir. All

Sean P. Holman (51m 47s):

Later. Bye.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 48s):

6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5 is the five star hotline. You can call it 24 hours a day. And leave us a message.

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Oh hotline 6 5 7 2 5 6 1 0 5. It’s the five star hotline. Five star hotline.

7 (52m 13s):

Hey, thanks Ian. Hall racer listening to the Johnny Lieberman interview and he kept talking about the electricity the way of the future, even in rural America. One point that I have to make, if two things they have to overcome, one, when we’re hauling livestock, they have to make it where we can get range. And B, the fill up time is as fast as what it is right now when we pull in the diesel, solar or gas fill The truck back up So, we can be on the road 15 minutes. You can’t be sitting there for an hour with a load full of livestock. And two, last winter they had trouble getting vehicles all charged up whenever we got into those negative temperatures and stuff on it.

7 (52m 53s):

And we had to have our vehicles every single day to feed during the wintertime on it. And until they come up with a way to overcome the not being able to charge whenever it’s subfreezing temperatures will, America won’t adopt it because they have to be able to go out there and have that truck or tractor start because they have to have it to be able to give the livestock feed every single day to keep ’em alive during those cold maps. So anyway, continue to lower the suckage and five stars.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 19s):

I appreciate that. I hadn’t considered livestock

Sean P. Holman (53m 22s):

I mean, we’ve talked about it, we’ve talked about rodeos and things like that. People have a thousand miles to tow a 20,000, 30,000 pound trailer full of cows, bulls, horses. What are they gonna do? They’re not gonna wait hours on the side of the road. And again, to going to the point where we talked with Johnny, it’s like, if you want these truck people to be able to use the technology, why aren’t there drive through ev charging stations? Everything’s a Poland. And so what do you do? Unhook your trailer and then go charge and go rehook your trailer. I mean, I think

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 50s):

It’s

Sean P. Holman (53m 51s):

Just, it’s not thought out for that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 52s):

They will figure that out. There was I mean

Sean P. Holman (53m 54s):

EVs aren’t gonna work anytime in the near future for heavy duty trucks. Period.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 59s):

Probably right?

Sean P. Holman (53m 60s):

A hundred percent right.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 2s):

Lower than the

8 (54m 5s):

Congratulations you have earned five stars.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 8s):

6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5 is the number that this dude called.

9 (54m 15s):

Well Jay. It’s time to get hers. A Range Rover.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 18s):

That’s so that’s funny. He heard the, with my wife, right? Wait a minute, she’s gonna go from the Porsche to the Range

Sean P. Holman (54m 28s):

Rover. No, no, no. The Porsche’s a fake Porsche. We’ve already established that. I know. Yeah. And she wants a Range Rover.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 33s):

Yeah, she does.

Sean P. Holman (54m 34s):

And that’s what you’re going to get instead of a Maverick st. Dude,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 37s):

If they had six month leases, I should just freaking turro these things for her now it’s ridiculous.

Sean P. Holman (54m 42s):

Oh, you could turro that, that would be a good idea.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 45s):

It would be insanely expensive. You,

Sean P. Holman (54m 46s):

You’ve, you’ve boxed yourself into a single car garage with no exit.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 50s):

It’s rid ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5 is the number that you call to bash Lightning

9 (54m 58s):

Lightning Holman. Have a question. Just heard the podcast where the gentleman was asking about the Caterpillar truck. And I am going to piggyback on that and ask if you have seen the video on the Kia truck. Cannot remember the name of it off the top of my head. The YouTube video that I watched. It’s got some pretty badass styling. Sorry for the s and just wanted your opinion. Five stars later.

10 (55m 29s):

Five star review. Five stars.

Sean P. Holman (55m 33s):

And that would be the new Kia Tasman, which is a mid-size pickup truck. It kind of reminds us a little bit of a mix between the Rivian, the Nikola Badger and something from China. Sort of like the, the thing they’re going. So,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 50s):

So it’s the thing, it’s

Sean P. Holman (55m 51s):

Got crazy graphics and it hasn’t been announced yet, but it’s not really meant for the us It’s gonna be focusing on the Australian market with the Utes, things like that. Obviously Ranger and Toyota battle it out there and it is definitely gonna be overseas. I’m sure Southeast Asia, other places they want it to be a global vehicle. But I think Africa, South Korea are also on the list, maybe even the Middle East. So they have a YouTube channel. So if you look up the Kia YouTube, it’s called the Tasman. And they also show a a ton of testing. Engineers did 1,777 different types of durability testing.

Sean P. Holman (56m 31s):

And then wait how

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (56m 32s):

Many?

Sean P. Holman (56m 33s):

1,777. And about 18,000 individual evaluations to dial in The truck. Now if that truck does well, I mean maybe there’ll be A-A-S-U-V that it could share the platform with that, that might make it viable for North America. But for right now it’s a global truck. We won’t get it here. Plus the, the chicken tax, which is the 25% truck tax or anything built overseas isn’t gonna work. So that is probably not coming here anytime soon. But it’s definitely interesting to look at. And if you wanna know more, go to the YouTube channel.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 4s):

Holman the inbox. Overfloweth, are you good for us? Email? Let’s

Sean P. Holman (57m 7s):

Do some email.

2 (57m 9s):

You email? Yeah, I email Do it. We email. That’s right. Every email type it up. You email proofread. I email send it. We email, click it every email.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 25s):

Alright. You want me to start this one at truck show podcast at gmail dot com. Go for it. All right. Jonathan Randolph writes in about a Honda Ridgeland, apparently Dr. Hole pepper in sir Lightning biscuit.

Sean P. Holman (57m 37s):

Okay. That’s what Dr. Hol Pepper

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 39s):

Don’t extra Lightning biscuit. Yes.

Sean P. Holman (57m 41s):

Don’t think those are gonna stick. But interesting.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 42s):

A couple of weeks ago at a local auto cross day, I saw the most unbelievable thing, a ridge line doing truck things Whoa. It started as a normal Saturday morning at the Auto Cross course. But as people started to arrive with their trucks and trailers, one of the tow rigs looked quite different. It was a Honda Ridge line towing, a tricked out civic hatchback on a flatbed car hauler. As I sat in amazement watching them drive by, the thought crossed my mind, does this actually make it a truck? I quickly came to my senses and realized, no way, Jose, but I think this guy and his ridge line might actually get an honorary truck pass. Let me know what y’all think.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 23s):

See the attached photo as evidence and sure enough, there it is.

Sean P. Holman (58m 26s):

Dude, it’s awesome. It’s a first gen ridge line with a camper shell towing a dual axle trailer with a s souped up Honda Hatchie on the back. Super cool. I’m sorry. It’s rad. Yeah, it’s, I get honorary truck pass for this dude. He’s actually using it. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 42s):

Like it. Agreed a hundred percent. And he asked for a Finnegan. Yeah buddy. Followed by a taste. The biscuits.

2 (58m 48s):

Yeah, buddy.

11 (58m 49s):

Taste the biscuit. Taste the goodness of the biscuit.

Sean P. Holman (58m 57s):

I am moving right along. All right, I, I’ve got this one here from, let’s see, Mike Bonomo says, Mickey Thompson tires suck. He says Truck show podcast team AKA, the great Lightning and Holman. First off, love the podcast. You have definitely earned five stars.

8 (59m 13s):

Congratulations. You have earned five stars.

Sean P. Holman (59m 17s):

I purchased a Mickey Thompson Baja Boss at tires in September of 2023 after you discussed them on a, a podcast. I believe they were on a Ford Lighting for an efficiency test or something like that. I was super excited to get them on my tundra and they look great. I’m currently in southwest Wyoming to do some off-roading and on the county maintained Dirt road. I took a rock in the dead center of the tread and ruin the tire. Not that you were recommend Ouching Mickey Thompson tires during the podcast, but your discussion with them sparked my interest. I’m just sharing this story to alert others that Mickey Thompson tires, in my opinion, are not what their website indicates. That over $300 per tire, I certainly expect to be able to drive on a road that the Nissan aria can without ruining an off-road tire. And I quote for the website premium extreme hybrid, all trained tire. Thanks for the excellent content every week.

Sean P. Holman (59m 58s):

Mike Bonomo. But wait, Lighting, this is actually a two part email ’cause he writes back Mickey Thompson tires suck update.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 5s):

Okay.

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 6s):

He says, just one to let you know,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 7s):

Are they worse now? What happened? Are they flat? Like what? He

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 10s):

Said, yeah, it has no air and it hasn’t gotten better. He says, just one to let you know that Mark, quality manager at Mickey Thompson Tires reached out to me directly to discuss my concern. Mark authorized the tire store to provide a prorated credit so they could replace my Baja boss tires, which are not available in an LT rating with their Baja legend tires that are that was great customer service. Way to go, Mickey Thompson.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 30s):

Wow.

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 32s):

There you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 32s):

Go. You know, that’s one of the tire brands we’ve not had on the show. We’ve had, we’ve tried Toyo Nito, we’ve tried, we’ve had, have we had Firestone Bridgestone? Maybe not. Huh? Interesting. We’ve had Mile star. Okay, so Wade Goldsmith writes in and says Witchcraft and the subject line, how brave are you guys? He asks, and then he shares a picture of Dr. Pepper spicy bourbon flavor. Hmm hmm. With a very funky looking can, huh? I’d try it. Would you?

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 11s):

I’d definitely try it. But where do we get

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 12s):

It? Is this real or I have no idea. I don’t know if this is ai. First

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 15s):

Thing I saw, what I always say though is Dr. Pepper is perfect as is and anytime you add a flavor it’s never better. So, but I’ll take, I’ll take the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 22s):

Flyer on it. I disagree. I really like the cream,

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 27s):

Cream soda’s, theda only one that’s close to being.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 30s):

I think it’s great.

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 31s):

It’s not better though than the original, but it’s not horrible. I,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 34s):

I think I agree with you. I think it’s great but not better. And I’m gonna do a two for here. Tow rating is the subject line from Matt Burgess. Hello shed Dwellers. Holman. Is there a place to find tow ratings of older trucks? I’m looking at a 1995 F-150 long bed, two wheels straight axle, six a Google search said 7,500 pounds. That sounds correct, but just wondering if you knew of a source that could back it up. Love the show. Keep it up. And that’s Matt in South Florida.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 2s):

Yeah, so there’s a lot of places you can find it. I don’t know if there’s one aggregate that has them all. Total ratings are super freaking complicated. And if you’ve ever looked at just the like 2024 Ford Commercial Fleet manual for example, there’s hundreds upon hundreds of entries that have to do with Wheel type, single or dual gear ratio. Four by four, four by two Wheel base, transmission engine and short cab,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 27s):

All of it. Regular cab, dual cab, extra cab, all of it. Crew cab, short bed, long bed,

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 33s):

The whole thing. So it’s, it’s one of the things that I don’t know if there’s one place I would be happy to do a search. If somebody out there knows that there’s a a place to get all that, then feel free to drop us A line

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 43s):

Truck Show podcast is where you hit us guys. Truck show podcast dot com is where you’ll find gobs and gobs of content and our email addresses. So you can find that schmuck and this one The

2 (1h 2m 54s):

Truck show. The truck show, The truck show Whoa.

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 1s):

And you can reach these schmucks at Truck show podcast on the gram at Truck show podcast at LBC Lighting. At Sean P Holman. Or you can email us truck show podcast at gmail dot com. Lightning at truck show podcast dot com or Holman at truck show podcast dot com. And you can find out more on our website about feature products and deals like habanero tools or a free subscription to OVR Magazine. Just go to truck show podcast dot com and go down to our featured products page in between that, check it all out. And then, guys, we haven’t had any good reviews in a while. Please leave us a five star review either on Spotify or on the Apple podcast app. We

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 37s):

Deserve it ’cause we’re better than ever before. You know that, right?

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 40s):

So we’re basically our, our competition is us. We just have to be better than us. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 46s):

We set a super

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 47s):

Duper low bar. Well, okay, the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 49s):

Bar is so low we just step right over it. You know what I’m saying is, is that

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 52s):

How that works? Yes.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 53s):

It’s just crazy. I do wanna reiterate, I can see, I knew you brought it up just now, but like our, our product page, our partner page, what the hell is it called again? On our website? Our featured product. Featured product. You realize page, you named it right? I know it. I just can never, I’ve got a mental block. I can’t come up with it for some reason. Wow. Our featured product page, if you want something EGR related, there’s an amazing rebate program. Alright. Yeah. Which boys Lightning and Holman. We put that together if you want. He just talked about that Hoppier torch, the soldering gun at 40% off. And by the way, it’s everything on the website. How about Cal

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 27s):

Car? California? Car covers

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 29s):

California car cover 15% off. Dude, I didn’t even know this. We got credit by the way. There’s four guys at banks that have already bought car covers. Two for Miatas. Go figure. Yeah, one for a Camaro and one for a truck. So four, four just at banks. I didn’t even know about till just the other day. I seen pop up in the parking lot. They their code, they did that. No, absolutely. Cool. I had sent an email out to, to staff and whatnot. So again, if you’re looking for a car cover, 15% off California car cover.

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 56s):

And if you wanna discount on bank’s products, just DM or email Lightning and he will, he’ll take care of that because

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 5m 1s):

That’s like my secret outside

Sean P. Holman (1h 5m 3s):

Of, that’s like our, that’s our inn out secret menu right there. Just hit up Lightning.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 5m 6s):

I make like these custom codes with their last name in it so it’s like bespoke just for you. Yeah, these guys are pretty stumped.

Sean P. Holman (1h 5m 11s):

You don’t get caught giving our listeners discounts.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 5m 13s):

No, I do. Colin Gale’s sun. He sees every single or hey, what’s this discount code for? Like, I dunno what you’re talking about.

Sean P. Holman (1h 5m 20s):

Yeah, I’m sure. Alright, listen, if you’re in the market for a new truck, hang on down to your local Nissan dealership or type in Nissan, EGR USA to your browser. You can build in price the brand new Nissan Frontier, a great, dependable, reliable, awesome pickup truck that’ll do everything you need to do. Especially if you don’t need a big, old, giant full size pickup truck. Frontiers sort of perfect,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 5m 41s):

Not sort of perfect is. And if you have a 2011 to 2016 Duramax boost tubes are apparently very hard to come by from good old General Motors. But you know who does have them and their upgrades. Banks Power dot com go from your really puny two inch boost tubes that will eventually burst ’cause they dry and crack on the couplers to three and a half inch high flow boost tubes that are powder coated banks red. And the last year, lifetime. Banks Power dot com to get yours. And by the way, there’s boost tubes for all the major turbocharged diesels.

Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 20s):

Did you know that synthetic oil has a ton of benefits, including improved engine cleanliness, maximizing your fuel economy, increased wear protection, and provides all these benefits that conventional motor oil simply can’t match? If you’re thinking about synthetics, you want to head over to AMS oil dot com where you can learn all about it, what motor oil viscosity you should use, what motor oil types there are, what goes into making synthetic oil. All that information and more is at AMS oil dot com. And of course, we use AMS oil in our personal vehicles and it should be the first choice on your list for synthetics.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 6m 52s):

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Sir, it’s time for you to stock this unhealthy behavior. No, it’s not. You need to take responsibility for your life. Not right now. I don’t.