Season 2, Episode 69 - Have You Heard? Truck News! Ford SuperVan 4.2, Ram Tungsten, Nissan Frontier, Holman Drives a Prius

 

 

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Sean P. Holman (0s):

Hey, lighting, Have, You. Heard.

Intro (2s):

I said no.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4s):

Nope.

Intro (6s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer what the truck truck rode with the truck show. We have the lifted. We have the lowered and everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on Diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show low. It’s the truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman.

Sean P. Holman (43s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 3s):

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Intro (1m 27s):

Is the show where they talk breaking news. And This is the part where Coleman has Lightning Have, You Heard.

Sean P. Holman (1m 35s):

Hey Lighting, Have, You Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 37s):

No, I said no. You can kill all that right now. Like at this moment. Stop. No, I have not. Okay,

Sean P. Holman (1m 44s):

Well we have all sorts of crazy, crazy truck and apparently Van News

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 50s):

Truck and Van News. It’s the the Van News podcast.

Sean P. Holman (1m 54s):

No. Have, did you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 55s):

Hear the Van Show Podcast?

Sean P. Holman (1m 56s):

Did you hear about Ford’s? 1400 horsepower SuperVan in Europe. It’s an electric van. Well check this out. The Ford SuperVan 4.2 EV added a few more records to its resume. It now holds the title for the quickest closed wheeled vehicle, electric vehicle and commercial model around the 3.85 mile course that hosts the Bat Hearst 500 race. So the SuperVan did a record setting lap one minute and 56.3247 seconds. Why

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 33s):

Don’t, what does that compare to? like a, A Tesla or a Porsche GT three RSS or

Sean P. Holman (2m 38s):

Something? Well, lemme just put this out. Apparently it bested the previous record owner, which was the Mercedes A MG GT three Oh, my

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 47s):

God.

Sean P. Holman (2m 48s):

Okay. Which did it in 1 56 0 5. So 0.2803 seconds slower than the four oh

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 57s):

Van in the commercial van.

Sean P. Holman (2m 58s):

Dude. Well, I mean it’s, it’s totally race prepped. It’s, it’s kind of rad looking actually.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 2s):

It, oh yeah, that’s, no, that’s wild. It’s

Sean P. Holman (3m 4s):

Wild. Yeah. That

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 6s):

Looks like kind of Honda minivan ish. It is something you find in Japan.

Sean P. Holman (3m 10s):

It it’s, yeah, go, go. Just Google SuperVan 4.2. It’s pretty rad. Okay. All, right. Hey, lighting. Have You Heard.

5 (3m 19s):

No. And I don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 21s):

Care. Nope.

Sean P. Holman (3m 23s):

A funny story on motor one.com is cowards Range Rover won’t make wheels bigger than 23 inches. I thought that was, they’re like the perfect click page to get you in. Yes, because

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 34s):

Why not 20 fours pansies?

Sean P. Holman (3m 36s):

Apparently they said the 23 inch carbon fiber shoes on the sport SV model are as big as they get.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 41s):

Well, okay. Hold on a second. Carbon fiber that may change the equation for me a little bit.

Sean P. Holman (3m 46s):

So Jaguar Land Rover’s vehicle engineering director Matt Becker, told them that 23 seems to be about the limit. You won’t wanna go much bigger than that. don don’t really see many 24 inch wheels. And Florida just said, hold my beer. Hey lighting, Have You, Heard,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 1s):

What are you deaf and stupid? I said, no, no.

Sean P. Holman (4m 7s):

Toyota’s land Cruiser configurator is now live. And there’s three trim levels that you can choose from. And the land Cruiser will start at a pedestrian 57, 4 45. And then that’s the 1958 base model, which has the round headlights. You move up to the land Cruiser for 63 4 45 and then land Cruiser first Edition 76 4 45 fully loaded. And that’s with the hybrid assisted Turbocharged 2.4 cylinder, which is in the new Tacoma. So 326 horsepower and 465 pound feet of torque.

Sean P. Holman (4m 47s):

Gets a standard center and rear locking differential. And then the mid-range trim adds front stabilizer disconnect and multi terrain select along with mud, dirt, and sand settings. But I, I really like,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 58s):

I feel like that’s reasonably priced. Actually,

Sean P. Holman (5m 0s):

It’s, it’s not bad. I, I really like the interior, but I think the styling’s a little funky on the outside for me. Especially front end

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 8s):

It. is it too square?

Sean P. Holman (5m 9s):

It’s not too square. Just the front end. Well, I mean I, I think it all looks good except the nose is too modular Lego looking. Whereas the Lexus GX on the same platform is like almost beautiful. Like it’s a great looking car. The Lexus interior is stunning land. CR Cruiser interior is actually really good. Also, Lexus gets a three row option. I think Land Cruiser is only a two row again, makes you wonder where four runner’s gonna fit in.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 34s):

I wonder why they wouldn’t give the Toyota a third row

Sean P. Holman (5m 36s):

That I, maybe that’s where four runner comes in. I don’t know. Mm. And don don’t like the wheels on the land. Cruiser. I think they’re god awful.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 42s):

Lemme see.

Sean P. Holman (5m 43s):

They’re just horrible. They look like Camry wheels. Yeah, that’s bad. They’re just, that’s not, that’s the base model.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 47s):

The Toyota eh,

Sean P. Holman (5m 48s):

Cut it out. So anyway, if you want that platform, I’m kinda leaning toward the Lexus a lot more coin but way more, way more nice and just a better looking vehicle. Hey lighting, Have, You, Heard. No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 60s):

But nope.

Sean P. Holman (6m 2s):

Apparently Chevy, Silverado and GMC Sierra plug-in hybrids are on the way. And apparently GM had plans for a Ford Maverick sized electric pickup truck, which it has canceled. Oh. If you believe the rumors on the old internet,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 17s):

I wonder why

Sean P. Holman (6m 18s):

So. Well because GM is pulling way back from electric development and going, oh wait a minute. We like plugins, which is hilarious ’cause typical GM, think of all the cars that they got wrong when they launched that were really good and then they decide to kill ’em. Whether it’s like a, you know, Fiero or I mean you just countless GM things. But they had the Volt, like they had a plugin hybrid. They were leading everybody. The vol, they were ahead of It was great calls.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 41s):

The vol was one of the best still

Sean P. Holman (6m 42s):

Today. And so now they’re like, no, no, we’re gonna go all EV. And now they’re like, uhoh, maybe we messed up on that deal. So I. Guess. We’ll, we’ll find out. Hey lighting, Have, You, Heard. don

6 (6m 53s):

Don’t watch the news because I’m a

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 55s):

Kid. No,

Sean P. Holman (6m 56s):

I haven’t heard. Speaking of electronics, GM has halted sail of 2024 Colorados and canyons over software issues. Apparently there’s already a fix in play. But the 2024 Colorado and 2024 Canyon are basically on a stop sale. They have 15,000 brand new trucks that are on their way to the dealer that are affected. Ouch. Yeah. So they said they’ve already identified and have begun implementing a fix for those. If you’ll remember the Chevy Blazer EV just before Christmas had a similar issue with its software. So GM stop doing that. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 33s):

And by the way, who’s buying the blazer? Like that’s not, that’s a dumb ass car.

Sean P. Holman (7m 37s):

Well the previous blazer was definitely not great. The new EV blazer is supposed to be pretty

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 43s):

Nice. Fine. Yeah. Well I guess I’m talking about the previous generation.

Sean P. Holman (7m 45s):

That was awful with the tinny door slams and all that. It was not. I rented one once and was very not impressed by that particular

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 53s):

Product. You shouldn’t I mean it really not their

Sean P. Holman (7m 54s):

Best work.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 54s):

It did a disservice to the name, the trademark blazer.

Sean P. Holman (7m 58s):

Oh absolutely. Yeah. A hundred percent. Hey lighting, Have You Heard I mean now? No. How about now?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 4s):

No Can. you hear me?

Sean P. Holman (8m 5s):

How? Stop it Can. you hear me? Lemme

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 7s):

Turn my headphones down. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (8m 8s):

It must be because you’re driving Ram Ram 1500 Tungsten with a clips audio system, 23 speakers, 12 inch close sub and a pair of one inch titanium dome tweeters and a 1,228 watt amplifier. Holy

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 26s):

Balls.

Sean P. Holman (8m 27s):

Apparently each of the cabs four doors has a six by nine and a trio of three and a half inch coaxial are equally spaced across the instrument panel to create what they are calling an impressive sound stage. And this truck is the most opulent, most luxurious, most beautiful interior of any pickup truck in the history of pickup trucks. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 47s):

This is the Ram 1500 Tungsten you said? Yep. Tungsten. So this is going to start at

Sean P. Holman (8m 54s):

89, 1 50, 89, 1 50 and work its way up really close with all the options to that six digit

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 2s):

Territory. And this has which engine again? This is the straight six. That would

Sean P. Holman (9m 5s):

Be high output hurricane three liter straight six gas.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 8s):

Okay. Wow. For a Ram 1500.

Sean P. Holman (9m 12s):

Yep. Hmm. A really nice Ram 1500

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 15s):

Without the supercharged 6.2 liter.

Sean P. Holman (9m 20s):

Ah, my friend Hellcat has two turbos, not one but two. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 24s):

And it’s got two turbos, but it’s still, it’s no 7 0 2 horsepower.

Sean P. Holman (9m 28s):

Hey, well this isn’t the Hellcat So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 29s):

I know that I, I’m aware of that.

Sean P. Holman (9m 31s):

And it’s way more power than the Hemi. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 34s):

No, no.

Sean P. Holman (9m 36s):

Jeep has confirmed that 2024 will be the last year of the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 3 92 And. it will be commemorated with a Final Edition.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 45s):

Not a last call.

Sean P. Holman (9m 46s):

You know what’s funny is all these people on the internet I’ve been telling for two years and all the 3 92 group stuff, they’re like, they’ve been saying that since day one so they can save more this, there’s, they’re gonna have it for four more years. And I’m like, you guys are dumb. So I went back on there and I’m like, told you so. And you went where? Back on the forum. And I’m like, I told you so.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 4s):

So you had to look up an old thread?

Sean P. Holman (10m 6s):

No, it was a current thread because they’re talking about how the Final Edition came out. Yeah. And then one of the people on it was a high up person within Jeep who liked the post and said nothing else, And. it was like, you know, you know, that’s all I gotta say.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 20s):

So last year is, you said 25?

Sean P. Holman (10m 23s):

No, this year. Done. That’s it. Get your 3 92 or don’t. Wow, I got mine. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 33s):

No. Said the guy who wanted the 3 92 and couldn’t get one. ’cause they’re about to be sold out

Sean P. Holman (10m 40s):

Or gone forever. So check this out. We have seen copious amounts of Ford Broncos with wheels pointing toward each other.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 47s):

Have we? Yes. I, okay. Google

Sean P. Holman (10m 50s):

Bronco. Steering. Okay. It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 51s):

Everywhere. Here we go.

Sean P. Holman (10m 52s):

Everybody goes off road and they’re like, oh, I got 37 bro. Tire rod gone. Bronco, Steering Rack, broken Steering fire Buddy Quinn over a 74 weld is making a whole Steering system. Yep. Steering bill it

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 3s):

Rack because he’s Oh sure. Enough’s crazy there. It is, oh,

Sean P. Holman (11m 8s):

Snap. So Ford has somewhat acknowledged the fact that Bronco Steering might be weak for those who modify them and maybe even those who don’t. Because Ford Performance is now selling a $1,300 Steering system that includes a reinforced Steering rack with a higher torque motor, as well as stronger inner tie rods and reinforced outer tie rods with increased deflection ball joints. And then the goal will give you more articulation while strengthening the whole Steering system. So that’s pretty cool. And they’re basically calling it a severe duty Steering upgrade kit. But you’ll need a $495 procal four programming tool to also complete the job.

Sean P. Holman (11m 54s):

So you’re in it for just under two grand.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 57s):

Well, I guess I mean that’s, that’s an upgrade if you’re gonna paint the snot out of your

Sean P. Holman (12m 2s):

Bronco So I win at 74 Weld is thousands of thousands more than that. Right. For his billet Steering system. Right. So this is probably a, a good deal. Now if you own a 2024 Bronco wild track, you already have that upgrade. It’s part of the Haas 3.0 suspension upgrade. So anyway, so Ford Performance now offering Steering upgrades because I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 23s):

Wonder how many guys who have that wild track know that they have that upgrade?

Sean P. Holman (12m 28s):

Well, it just happened for 24. So all the guys who have wild tracks from the previous years, don’t Oh Yes not, not great. Oh, hey Lighting. Did you hear

7 (12m 37s):

Oh?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 38s):

No. No. Hmm. No.

Sean P. Holman (12m 40s):

From the Department of Recalls, which are a lot this week we

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 45s):

Need a new jingle just about recalls.

Sean P. Holman (12m 47s):

Oh seriously? Toyota not known for recalls generally? No. No. Is well,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 52s):

Except for their line of Priuses. I feel like Priuses have had quite a few

Sean P. Holman (12m 55s):

Recalls. Oh, I didn’t tell you. I rented the new one. 500 miles on it. Really? It hurts gold in Florida.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 0s):

Okay. And

Sean P. Holman (13m 1s):

$28,000. Did you like it? Loved it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 4s):

Did you like it because you wanted like it or because you actually did like it?

Sean P. Holman (13m 7s):

No, I was like, this thing’s rad. It was quiet, it rode nice. Didn’t have any squeaks or rattles. It didn’t feel cheap on the inside. The only thing I hate is the relationship of the Steering Wheel to the driver information center. The Steering Wheel Wheel. It’s Wheel or something. Yeah, it blocks it. The Steering Wheel blocks. It’s in a bad spot. You can’t adjust. I hated it. No, you can adjust it down. But then the angle of the Wheel is pointing down at you rather than being even with you or up. So that wasn’t great. It

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 31s):

Looks like it might have some blind spots. No,

Sean P. Holman (13m 33s):

It has some blind spots. Not super easy to see out the back, but it dings and whistles at you. And there’s things around, I’ll tell you though, for 28 grand, I’d go buy one right now and use it as my daily. But you can’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 42s):

Have a CRV

Sean P. Holman (13m 43s):

50 something miles per gallon. Yeah, but my kid’s gonna have that. And then I’m going to have, you know, a 3 92 So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 49s):

I think we’re in agreement that a, the new Prius on air just slammed out would be amazing. Dude.

Sean P. Holman (13m 54s):

Just the Prius XLE that has the TI think there are nineteens or twenties on it looks rad

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 59s):

Needs to be lowered though. My

Sean P. Holman (13m 60s):

Wife’s like, no, She goes get it outta your system. And I’m like, I can’t. It’s, it’s really good.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 5s):

I, I brought that up to Brandy and my kids and they all thought they, because we had a, when they were,

Sean P. Holman (14m 10s):

I saw it on the freeway, I’m like, honey, look, there’s one. She’s like, no, when we, I’m like, it freaking got twenties on it. She’s like, no. When

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 16s):

We, when my, when Gavin was my oldest who’s in a senior in college now, when he was really little, he was say it like this,

7 (14m 24s):

That’s a nice Prius shed. No, whenever,

Sean P. Holman (14m 27s):

That’s what he would say all. Yeah. But he can’t say that now because the new Prius is awesome.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 31s):

I think he would still say that

Sean P. Holman (14m 32s):

I would listen if that’s, that’s a

7 (14m 33s):

Nice free shed. No, whenever

Sean P. Holman (14m 35s):

You should get him to record that for you. I should. Yeah. By the way, he would just be

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 38s):

Like that. He was doing the boys.

Sean P. Holman (14m 39s):

I’m telling you like the freaking car is for the price. I would immediately go and make that my daily. Just, just keep it off. Put the miles on it, let it get door dinged in a parking lot. Don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 50s):

Care. I know too, guys, two firemen, I don know why firemen, but I know two firemen local to us that both have homes in Lake Havasu, which is a four and a half to five hour drive. They have big trucks, big boats. The whole thing has firemen do and but they’re d they their commuter to go back and forth. It is, It is a Prius. It’s a press. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (15m 10s):

Dude, I’m telling you that thing. What do you think a 28,000 Prius lease would be? A couple hundred bucks a month. Yeah. Dude, I wonder if The Truck, Show Podcast needs a write off. ’cause I would totally do that, huh? Yeah. Impressive. I’m like that’s, it’s, it’s doesn’t car play and climate control, auto climate control and all the things I, I care about it. It’s all the stuff. Adaptive cruise

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 30s):

Control. How was the stereo? Just okay. It was fine. It was

Sean P. Holman (15m 33s):

Just fine. I mean, listen, it’s, it’s not their top of the line. Prius. But it didn’t suck. Yeah. Hmm. It didn’t suck. All right back to our Toyota recall. Guess how many Toyota were

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 44s):

We just talking about? A Prius. We were Oh. my God.

Sean P. Holman (15m 47s):

Guess how many Toyota Tacoma trucks are being recalled? Because there’s a potential issue with the rear axle assembly. This would cover years 2022 and 2023.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 1s):

How many? Okay. 120,000.

Sean P. Holman (16m 5s):

So apparently there was some welding debris that was left on the axles when they were manufactured. And what happens is because the debris is there, the retaining lu nuts can loosen and if they do, it will eventually separate from the axle assembly. And so they have to inspect it and then put retighten the ax, actual retaining nets free of charge and make sure that there’s no other damage that would be affecting 381,000. Oh

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 33s):

Dang.

Sean P. Holman (16m 34s):

Ouch. Two.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 35s):

It’s a lot of labor.

Sean P. Holman (16m 36s):

That’s a lot.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 37s):

That’s a big labor bill. A

Sean P. Holman (16m 38s):

Lot of stuff.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 40s):

Okay.

Sean P. Holman (16m 41s):

Then also check this out. Toyota also had to recall 280,663. What are they trying to be Ford right now?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 49s):

I don’t know why. What’s going on

Sean P. Holman (16m 51s):

Over unexpected movement concerns. So what does that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 54s):

Mean?

Sean P. Holman (16m 54s):

Apparently the National Highway Traffic and Safety administrations to Toyota will recall these 280,000 pickup trucks in SUVs and issue a software update. So apparently when the vehicles are in neutral and the brakes are not applied, they can move.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 8s):

Wait, what? So it’s not actually neutral. It

Sean P. Holman (17m 11s):

Includes certain tundras tundra hybrids, Lexus LX six hundreds between 22 and 24, as well as the sequoias that were manufactured last year says,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 20s):

Well wait a minute, under what circumstance would you have it in neutral with no brakes just sitting

Sean P. Holman (17m 24s):

There So. it says certain parts of the transmission may not immediately disengage when the vehicle is shifted to the neutral position. This can allow some engine power to continue to be transferred to the wheels and can allow the vehicle to inadvertently creep forward at low speeds when it’s on a flat surface and no brakes are applied leading to an increased risk of a crash.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 43s):

But who would do that and why?

Sean P. Holman (17m 45s):

No, it’s just when you’re shifting through.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 48s):

No, that’s not, you would never, that wouldn’t happen. Your, your brakes would be on or you’re shifting into drive and you’re only momentarily you’re passing through

Sean P. Holman (17m 56s):

Neutral. Well, apparently it doesn’t do what it’s supposed to

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 58s):

Do. And what I’m saying is that’s for some, a-hole who leaves it in neutral and takes his foot off the brake and expects it to not move. Like what? Why would you do that? You put it in in park

Sean P. Holman (18m 6s):

Or you don’t and your vehicle moves and then you need to go have a recall.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 9s):

That’s a people thing, not a Toyota thing.

Sean P. Holman (18m 11s):

No, that’s definitely a Toyota thing. It should not do that. If you’re neutral, it should not be moving.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 15s):

I agree. But like, who’s found that out and why? Like, stop it.

Sean P. Holman (18m 19s):

Oh, Lightning. Hey lighting. Have You Heard.

8 (18m 23s):

No. God, please. No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 25s):

No, no. I don’t think so.

Sean P. Holman (18m 28s):

The 2024 Jeep Gladiator is 1090 $5 cheaper than before.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 32s):

I did actually hear about this. Yes. They’re, they’re having some issues, right. Get moving those things.

Sean P. Holman (18m 37s):

I think everybody’s having issues right now, so,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 39s):

But is it because Solanis said, Hey you dealers, you can only stock four bys.

Sean P. Holman (18m 44s):

Well, I think that’s probably gonna be part of it. Well, that’s can’t lan that’s basically the regulations. They’re obviously getting ahead of it, but yeah, the 2024 sport is 39 790 versus 40,885 from last year in the Rubicon. However, the 2, 2 4 Rubicon, which has more content is 54 8 90 versus 53 7 35 So. it just depends on where you are in the trim walk, whether the price is up or down. But I do know that they are trying to add more, essentially more equipment, give you more value for the money that you’re spending. But okay. Sales are, are slow. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 25s):

Nope.

Sean P. Holman (19m 26s):

More spy photos have been surfacing of the refreshed 2025 Nissan Frontier. Oh. So looking forward to wait refresh.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 35s):

Like what are they doing? Like

Sean P. Holman (19m 36s):

It the mid-cycle refresh. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 38s):

Know, but it we just got the new truck not long ago.

Sean P. Holman (19m 41s):

Yeah. Like three years ago.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 43s):

Has it been three years? Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (19m 45s):

It’s time.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 45s):

The, the truck in your driveway.

Sean P. Holman (19m 47s):

I know that still looks fresh. It is three years old. What? Yep.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 51s):

No.

Sean P. Holman (19m 52s):

Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 54s):

Huh.

Sean P. Holman (19m 55s):

Time for an upgrade.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 57s):

I mean I I okay. Hey, you

Sean P. Holman (19m 59s):

Gotta keep it fresh man, because all the competition’s coming. Keep it fresh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 2s):

Bro. But I’m

Sean P. Holman (20m 3s):

Telling you, for 45 grand, that truck is awesome.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 7s):

Who were you just driving around with it in the other day? Mike Rice

Sean P. Holman (20m 10s):

And Graham McPherson from Go Fast. Cabers and Graham’s like, I’ve never been in a Frontier before. He is like this, this is actually kind of

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 18s):

Red. I told you the story when I was at King of the Hammers and Corey Willis rolled up and he’s like, what’s up with this truck? Yeah. I’ve never seen one in person. I go, how are you guys not seeing in front? But I guess it’s just the distribution is smaller than their competitors and Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (20m 33s):

But, but not even, not even that. It’s just people, they don’t,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 36s):

They’re not aware. They

Sean P. Holman (20m 37s):

Look at it and they’re like, what vehicle is that? And you’re like, it’s a Nissan Frontier. They’re like, it’s really an odd, is

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 45s):

That the noise they

Sean P. Holman (20m 45s):

Make? They do. They go, do you know know how many people have looked at me? Oh. And I’m like, oh, Frontier. Yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s strange. Hmm. It’s very strange. All, right? It’s a cool truck. And one more for you. Lightning. Did you hear?

10 (20m 58s):

Ooh, Oh? no, no, no, no.

Sean P. Holman (21m 2s):

That’s the most annoying. No you have by the way. I don’t think I love that. No. Are you kidding me? Oh? no, I hate that nail. I’ve never even gotten a third way through. No, I know. It’s so bad. Goes on for like a minute. Yeah. Make it end. 2025 Chevrolet Evil Ranch. I mean Silverado EV. The Trail boss. Edition coming out next year could be cool adjacent. Yeah, it’s I think cool adjacent is probably, yeah. Close. They’ve shown some photos of it and it’s definitely got some, you know, gray or blacked out lower cladding on it and fender flares and it’s got some more off-road oriented wheels and so far, not a lot of other information, but it definitely looks more coolish than the current one.

Sean P. Holman (21m 46s):

Lemme see. It’s eighteens on. Well it looks like 30 threes maybe. No, I take it back. No, it’s not cool. No, you’re out. That is not cool. I’m out. It leaves this reviewer cold. Nope. What does it do for the show? It’s I mean it, we’re over. We’re done. That’s it. We’re gonna, let’s end. We’re gonna do it on the Chevrolet Trail Bots EV. Yep. That’s it. We’re gonna edit it. We’re out on a buzz kill. We can’t find like one more piece of news. Nope. That, that can redeem ourselves. Nope. No, no. Nope, nope. It’s over. No done. Goodbye. Sorry guys.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 20s):

Come on. He had

Sean P. Holman (22m 21s):

One job and he, he screwed it up.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 24s):

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