Season 2, Episode 117 - Scott Birdsall Takes his Mini Truck 230MPH!

 

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Sean P. Holman (9s):

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Scott Birdsall (14s):

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5 (2m 26s):

We did it. We did it. Come here.

Scott Birdsall (2m 30s):

Oh, we gonna do

6 (2m 31s):

Group Hugg? Yeah. Hell yeah. Group. Group Hugg. Group Hugg. Hell yeah.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (2m 37s):

I would like to call World Record Holder Scott Birdsall. You good with that? Yep. All right. Let’s dial

Sean P. Holman (2m 47s):

Have. You Heard.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (2m 49s):

Yes, I have.

Scott Birdsall (2m 53s):

Well, hello gentlemen.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (2m 55s):

Hello, hello, hello.

Sean P. Holman (2m 56s):

We’re talking to Scott Birdsall on the other side. It’s amazing how when you choose a race course that doesn’t have cliffs, how you get to the end of it. Sorry, is it too soon what you did there?

Scott Birdsall (3m 9s):

Oh, I, I know where you live,

Sean P. Holman (3m 14s):

Dude. All right. So I, I obviously was following your exploits over the, over the weekend I was camping. I was in Utah and in Colorado also. And I would get cell service. I would check in with, you know, Chuck’s garage. I kept, you know, was, was following along, was waiting, was waiting. There were updates. And dude, it was kind of fun ’cause you were like, okay, I gotta go, I gotta do this. I can only go this fast. I have to go get a license and then I gotta get approved for this and then I gotta get approved for this. I think you said that the record was the high one hundreds, right?

Scott Birdsall (3m 50s):

It was. So the record that you beat,

Sean P. Holman (3m 53s):

Not your record

Scott Birdsall (3m 53s):

For? Yeah, the record for F Fuel, the F blown fuel mini truck was 180 9.

Sean P. Holman (4m 0s):

Okay. So you freaking go out and not only do you break 200 and get your red hat, which is a huge thing at Bonneville, means that you’re in the 200 mile an hour club, but you go out on your final run and you set a record. I know we were talking earlier, you’re like, ah, you know, I, I think I know what it’ll do to 2 29 0.4. What? You just couldn’t get to two 30 or what?

Scott Birdsall (4m 27s):

No, I, so actually I did, I did, I did two. The GPS, both the GPSs and The truck said 2 34 was max speed that I reached. Nice. But one pass was 2 28 and one pass was 2 31. And so they averaged ’em out. That’s

Sean P. Holman (4m 44s):

Awesome. Gotcha. All right. The two things I want to know about, ’cause we talked about it. We had asked you, what do you think the salt’s gonna be like? ’cause you’ve never raced on it before. So that’s the first thing is like, what was it from the driver’s seat and was it squirrelly? Was it crazy? Was it a lot of traction? People wanna know. The other thing was you had basically assumed what power level you needed to be at to break the record. Were you all out, was there anything left to give? Do you think you would go back and beat your own record I mean I know how you are because he was talking about originally two 40. So

Scott Birdsall (5m 14s):

Yeah. So if I would’ve, if I would’ve added a little weight to The truck and pushed it a little harder, I could’ve, I I feel I could’ve easily done two 40 So. we reached an aerodynamic wall at 230 miles an hour. You could not push The truck past it without spinning tires. Got it. So if you watch, yeah, if you watch my video, I’m spin, I’m spinning tires and like, you know, there’s like a little save at 230 miles an hour. There’s just a wall there. I couldn’t get past it. I got past it a little bit, but not a whole lot.

Sean P. Holman (5m 46s):

You basically have the horsepower to go faster, but not the Arrow kit to go faster.

Scott Birdsall (5m 51s):

Yeah, because we’re, we’re not even at 60% throttle at at what we’re doing. Oh.

Sean P. Holman (5m 57s):

My God, dude.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (5m 58s):

So wait, what’s happening Aerodynamically? Is it lifting up the tail end of The truck?

Scott Birdsall (6m 2s):

It’s not lifting up the tail. It’s ba there’s so much drag that my traction cannot overcome. The drag.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (6m 10s):

What’s the solution to Big Wing that you’re not allowed to put because of your class or bigger, wider tires. So, but if you go bigger, wider tires, then you’re not cutting through the salt. More weight. More just more weight. Okay.

Scott Birdsall (6m 20s):

More weight. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (6m 21s):

So you wanna put Lightning already in there with you?

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (6m 24s):

How dare

Scott Birdsall (6m 24s):

You? There’s already about 1500 pounds of ballast on The truck just to make it go, you know, 2, 2 29 point 0.4. So, well, the

Sean P. Holman (6m 32s):

Two of us will easily add about 500 for you. Where’s

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (6m 34s):

It gonna put us in the bed?

Sean P. Holman (6m 35s):

Well, I mean, you know,

Scott Birdsall (6m 36s):

Put a couple, put a couple Ballast boys in the bed. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (6m 39s):

As, as, as round as Lightning is. He is aerodynamic.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (6m 41s):

Oh, you’re the one calling me round. Just ’cause I’m eating McDonald’s right now.

Sean P. Holman (6m 45s):

I mean that, that was not eating. That was completely scarfing and shoving it in your

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (6m 48s):

Face. It was what We were late to call Scott as as we normally, as we always are.

Sean P. Holman (6m 52s):

Okay, so Scott, what was it like? Yeah, you’re, you’re driving, you got your license, so you kinda have a fuel for The truck for the very first time. Now you’re allowed to go over 200. You’re in The truck. Yeah. You’ve got your ball chiller going and you are approaching two oh

Scott Birdsall (7m 7s):

Oh yeah, that’s the best, the best part of the whole truck

Sean P. Holman (7m 9s):

Ball chiller.

Scott Birdsall (7m 10s):

Yeah, so Vintage Air came on and they gave me the Gen five Super Magnum system, which takes up like,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (7m 18s):

Course that’s not even real thing. Stop it with that name, the Magnum system.

Scott Birdsall (7m 24s):

It is.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (7m 26s):

Sure.

Scott Birdsall (7m 26s):

Anyways,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (7m 27s):

That’s a Scott Birdsall meme is what that

Sean P. Holman (7m 29s):

Is. And I’m sure it’s all blacked out too, isn’t

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (7m 32s):

It? See what you

Sean P. Holman (7m 33s):

Did there.

Scott Birdsall (7m 37s):

Anyways, there’s two tubes like blowing on me and then there’s one that goes underneath the seat into this submarine belt area and it’s, it’s got a Gooch cooler.

Sean P. Holman (7m 47s):

Alright, so, so anyways, so now that your Gooch is cool.

Scott Birdsall (7m 50s):

After, after I did my licensing runs, yeah. After I did my licensing runs and my Gooch was cooled down, I, you know, I go out there and it’s, it’s like, it’s like driving on a, on loose dirt. It was just, there’s no traction. I basically had to short shift into six gear.

Sean P. Holman (8m 9s):

Do your tires have any tread on them? Are they completely smooth or?

Scott Birdsall (8m 13s):

They’re very little tread. So they’re, they’re the Goodyear, you know, 300 mile an hour rated land speed tires. They’re super lightweight and you know, you put 80 PSI into things

Sean P. Holman (8m 26s):

Of nitrogen

Scott Birdsall (8m 28s):

Yeah. Of nitrogen. But I mean it just, it, you know, it kind of, it kind of finds its groove and it wanders a little bit, but it’s, it’s like driving on a, on a loose dirt road.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (8m 38s):

So it never felt, and I know the Scott, it never felt like it was just gonna lift like a boat. You know, one of those high where they hydroplane and they lift up.

Scott Birdsall (8m 46s):

Luckily I, we got all the geometry and all the math and all the ballast points and you know, we got our center of pressure and center of gravity Correct. On The truck. And it, it just, it worked so good. And it was, it was, it was very Toyota esque. We just turned the key and went out and did a pass and then looked it over and then started it up and did it again and just, just kept going. The, the only work we had to do on The truck was, you know, they, they con I I feel like they conveniently reinterpreted the rules and made us change some stuff on The truck. Like what? Which didn’t really didn’t really make me, they made me put a bed floor in it, which was lame because, you know, a lot of the, a lot of the previous record holders in the, in these classes had holes in the bed and suddenly I had to seal mine up.

Scott Birdsall (9m 35s):

But, you know, we, we played ball, we, we took and we sealed everything up in the bed. We even changed the front windows a little bit and, and I was asked to drill a hole in my cow where the windshield wiper hole used to be. You know, like that would be any advantage. But the only things we had to do was, was things that were interpreted as not legal for the class. So. we changed everything and made our runs. And The truck ran like a freaking Swiss watch. Like it’s a Toyota and it did Toyota things and we were stoked.

Sean P. Holman (10m 11s):

Alright, so I, before we get too far away from this topic, because we will, you’re in The truck, you’re 196 miles an hour, you know, you’ve got the power, right? You know, you’ve got the okay truck’s feeling great. What was it like blasting through 200 and then and beyond? I mean you’re in the driver’s seat. Explain that to us. What was that like

Scott Birdsall (10m 31s):

200 miles an hour? There’s, there’s a little wiggle there. Like it started to fishtail a little bit and you just pushed through it, but after that it was smooth. You just, you just have to be very dainty with the throttle or it just blew the tires off at whatever speed you wanted to go. So, we actually re geared The truck, so it was geared so tall that the thing was barely getting into the spool. Like it was, it was, you know, we were on tune five of seven tunes, you know, tune seven is 42 PSII think Tune five was 34 PSI So. we weren’t even at full boost or full power and still couldn’t use all the power.

Sean P. Holman (11m 12s):

Dude, I I mean I’m looking at at, at the record run. So if you go to at Chuckles garage, he’s got it on his Instagram, he’s got video of it, you’re watching it and you’re just going like, that’s an insane amount of, of, of speed for a gardening truck, right. For landscape truck. And you’re like, I mean, ’cause

Scott Birdsall (11m 30s):

Honestly got, how fast did one of these things go factory? Like 90 maybe. Well what I with

Sean P. Holman (11m 34s):

A tailwind maybe. But here’s the thing is that those trucks, they’re all dented up. Like you could lean on one wrong or your, or your mower like rolls backwards in the driveway and completely tacos the bed. There’s, I’ve never seen a straight one. Yeah. Meanwhile you’re pushing 230 miles an hour of air density in front of you and the grill hasn’t shattered into a million little pieces and entered your turbo housing. Every,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (11m 54s):

Everything has been remade to look original, but it’s super stout.

Scott Birdsall (11m 59s):

No it’s not. It’s all stock body panels. In fact it’s like, you know, it’s got a, it’s got a cheap overseas hood on it and you know, the, you know, we got OEM fenders on it, but like, it’s all like cheap overseas repop stuff except for the front fenders. I

Sean P. Holman (12m 16s):

Can just, I, I can’t imagine that they didn’t just rip free from The truck at some point and you were in the open buggy class all of a sudden or something like that. Like, I wanna know, he,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (12m 26s):

He changes class halfway down the course

Sean P. Holman (12m 28s):

Saying, oh, what’s up? We’ve got an update Scott Birdsall now in the other, his other class

Scott Birdsall (12m 34s):

So. we did, we did notice that we pull when we pulled it in after we were all done racing that the front driver’s door, like the, the leading edge of it where it goes down, the eight pillar was pulled out like a quarter inch from where it used to be.

Sean P. Holman (12m 48s):

Good You know what? So the

Scott Birdsall (12m 49s):

Wind was getting, the wind was getting in there. Yeah. The wind was getting in there and actually bent the door a little bit. So

Sean P. Holman (12m 56s):

Good. Because if that hadn’t happened, I would say this whole thing is shenanigans and, and fakeness sham, that’s a complete sham. There’s no way a fricking nineties Toyota mini truck didn’t have body panels tune a canning away at

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (13m 9s):

229 miles, miles an

Sean P. Holman (13m 10s):

Hour, have four times the speed it was ever meant to go.

Scott Birdsall (13m 14s):

We made some aluminum inner fender panels instead of the factory plastic ones that, that like nut inserted to the body and nut inserted to the, to the fender and in hopes that they wouldn’t turn into a parachute.

Sean P. Holman (13m 27s):

Dude, I, I, I’m looking, okay, so you had, was it a factory windshield and the plexiglass on the sides? Is that how that worked?

Scott Birdsall (13m 34s):

Yeah, it’s factory windshield and then like l side windows.

Sean P. Holman (13m 38s):

So what was it like inside the cab? Was it pretty serene in there or were you I mean obviously airs

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (13m 44s):

Finding in I mean it was almost sucked off the, the doors when he was trying to pull it off the hinges.

Scott Birdsall (13m 49s):

Honestly, it felt like a hundred miles an hour, but with consequences.

Sean P. Holman (13m 53s):

Okay. All right. All right.

Scott Birdsall (13m 54s):

That’s I mean. That’s really what it felt like. It a hundred didn’t feel any faster than, well you, you, you don’t have any point of reference out there. Yeah,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (14m 2s):

I was gonna, what I’ve heard about this Scott, is that because the course is so long and the mountains are so far away, you don’t really perceive how fast you’re going. ’cause there’s no, you don’t have street signs, you don’t have, you know, light poles and stuff whizzing by you and traffic going the other direction. So No,

Scott Birdsall (14m 15s):

You, you have, there’s, there’s course markers and you see ’em whizzing by pretty quickly. It’s kind shocking how, you know, there’s 1, 2, 3, 4, and five marking the miles on, on the course and it’s kind of shocking how quickly the miles go past. But I mean you still, it’s, it’s hard to get a point of reference. Like the, I guess the, the, the feeling of speed to me was, was I knew it would get sketchy at certain miles per hour and I just had to, you know, and then I finally got to two 30 and I tried to push through it and I just couldn’t. So

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (14m 49s):

What do you do if The truck gets squirrely? Because most of us will never go above 200 miles an hour. Especially in a, in a garden’s must never go above one 20 Yeah. In a gardener’s truck. Yeah, but I mean, but there’s a real race vehicle. I mean, even though it’s, we are making fun about this, it’s fully caged and all that stuff. It’s made so in case you do wad it up, you’ll live. But like what do you, I don’t know what maneuver you do with your foot on the gas, the brake, right?

Sean P. Holman (15m 15s):

Is it better to lift and have engine braking or does that upset the chassis? Is it better to push

Scott Birdsall (15m 19s):

Through it? No, that’s, you might as, that’s like, yeah, that’s like pulling a hand brake, right? You would just, you would just spin. You can lift, but it can only be ever so slightly. Yeah, you cannot fully lift, you can’t like get halfway out of it. You can get like a quarter of the way out of it and you better get back into it really quick. You know, there’s a lot of counter steering and

Sean P. Holman (15m 45s):

Is it little? Is it,

Scott Birdsall (15m 46s):

It’s just, I don’t know. It’s it’s just all in your butt Dino. Like it all just kind of, it’s, it’s kind of a, a fluid thing with me. I just, I just go and, and you’re, whichever way the car wants to go,

Sean P. Holman (15m 55s):

Minor corrections, right? Like you’re just barely steering that thing. Right. You’re not like manhandling it. I would imagine

Scott Birdsall (16m 1s):

You cannot manhandle it ’cause it’ll spin. There’s not a lot of this. You’re, I feel like the conditions were good, but I don’t have any reference to what really good is. You know, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve heard guys talk about, you know, when it’s really, really good it feels like pavement and this year there was some soft spots and it was incredibly hot. And when it’s super hot the salt sucks, moisture from the ground and becomes squishy. So like the best runs were first thing in the morning before like the sun was beating on everything and making it squishy.

Sean P. Holman (16m 37s):

So explain to somebody who’s listening right now who doesn’t know about the course. How many is it oriented in, in like north, south, east, west, how many miles is it? And then what’s your slowdown zone when you gotta pop the chute and, and what do you have to get to the other end? What is the layout? So somebody can kind of visualize that

Scott Birdsall (16m 56s):

There’s two courses and No, no, I’ll kind of work you guys through everything here. So there’s two courses. There’s a short course, which is three miles, and then there’s the long course, which is five miles. So the short course is where you, where you took, where I took all my licensing runs. So you do a up to 150, so you weren’t allowed to go over a hundred fifty, one twenty five to one 50, then your next licensing run is one 50 to 1 75. And you can’t go over 1 75, but it has to be anywhere from one 50 to 1 75. Your third run is 1 75 to 200 and you can’t go over 200. And these are all in the short course.

Scott Birdsall (17m 37s):

And these are to get your, you know, all your different licenses. And I licensed all the way up to an A license, which is up to 250 miles an hour.

Sean P. Holman (17m 45s):

Damn.

Scott Birdsall (17m 46s):

So, and then that’s, that’s on the three mile course. So the three mile course I think you have a mile and a half, two miles to slow down and stop. And then there’s the five mile course. This is where all the streamliners and the, you know, 500 mile an hour cars would be running. That is a five mile course. And then there’s two miles of shutdown, if not more. There’s, you know, i I, I might be wrong, but there’s at least two miles of shutdown down there.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (18m 12s):

Are you starting at mile marker one or are you on the accelerator being pushed off with your Cummins powered Ram before mile marker one? Yeah. Okay.

Scott Birdsall (18m 23s):

So a lot of guys get push starts there, some get push starts because they have, you know, two or three speed transmissions and, and they have to start out in a very, very tall gear. I get a push start because I want to save my clutch. The truck can start out in first and go all the way through six. But we get a push start because it’s just better on The truck. And I’m not sitting there like a squid spinning my tires for the first, you know, a hundred yards. I get a nice push start. I start out in first and I just get going.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (18m 56s):

And so at what mile marker are you crossing the 200 mark?

Scott Birdsall (19m 2s):

I was crossing the 200 mile an hour mark just after the one mile mark on the short course when I was really getting in it. I think I was one. Yeah, I was, I was holding 200 plus through the two and the three mile on that. When I went on the short course, I took it a lot easier ’cause I wanted to get it up there smooth and I use the four and five mile to get up to 200 miles an hour.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (19m 28s):

Now what’s keeping you straight? It sounds you’ve got the cones or something to your momentum, your right momentum? No, no, no, no. What is there a Yeah, there’s a

Scott Birdsall (19m 35s):

A blue

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (19m 35s):

Line. There’s

Scott Birdsall (19m 36s):

A blue. Okay. There’s a blue line right down the center of each course and then there’s, and then there’s mile markers and course markers on the sides.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (19m 45s):

Did you ever get off that blue line?

Scott Birdsall (19m 48s):

Oh, if you watch the video, there’s one part where on my, on my final record run where I actually The truck gets sideways at two 30 and I use up all the real estate from left to right on the entire lane. Like I cross over the blue line into the other lane and

Sean P. Holman (20m 6s):

It was like the most epic drifting ever. Jim Kane? Yeah. Nothing Scott Birdsall

Scott Birdsall (20m 11s):

Your angle is really weak. Like you’re not getting a lot of angle, but you are sliding sideways at 230 miles an hour.

Sean P. Holman (20m 18s):

I mean you gotta, I’m listen you, you’re already, you’re already at two 30, why not check the other two 30 things off your bucket list sideways at two 30. Boom. Done.

Scott Birdsall (20m 27s):

I mean it’s, yeah, I kind of did that

Sean P. Holman (20m 29s):

Sounds

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (20m 29s):

Rad, but not, he doesn’t want to go like, like spin like a top

Sean P. Holman (20m 32s):

And it would be awesome.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (20m 33s):

Can you imagine that I mean in one of the, remember you were talking to Gail Banks on his podcast about this long a couple years ago, Scott, and he was talking about the Studebakers that he used to build the crazy big engines in Studebakers, but he said they were really slippery. Yeah, but they could get tail happy if not engineered properly. And he had a couple of his drivers that he would build the car, the engine, the whole thing and he would have a driver and they would get three quarters of the way down the course and then just spin like a top. I can’t even imagine how scary that would be.

Scott Birdsall (21m 5s):

Yeah, I’m I I was fairly certain it was gonna happen to me a couple times and it didn’t, I was able to steer out of it. But the, when you get sideways at Bonneville, if you can’t instantaneously steer out of it And when you gotta, when you steer out of these things, your counter steering input has to be perfect or you are spinning, you know, if you overcorrect you’re just done for, you are spinning like a top and hoping to God that you don’t your, you know, your tires don’t catch edge ’cause then, you know, then you’re taking a tumble.

Sean P. Holman (21m 40s):

Do, do you have or do people have strikes like vertical aerodynamic strikes that help keep the vehicle straight or is that liability if you hit sideways or is it even allowed?

Scott Birdsall (21m 52s):

The only aerodynamic things that I’m allowed to put on this truck are roof strikes that, that, you know, they span the length of the roof and then a front splitter. That’s it. The front splitter is obviously to control lift at high speed. Sure. But the roof strikes not only keep the, the flow of air over the bed like a laminar flow instead of cascading over the sides of The truck. They keep it going down the center of The truck, but when you get sideways it helps The truck not get airborne by stopping the air from going over the top of the car.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (22m 31s):

So 229 miles an hour 0.4. Yes. 2 29 0.4. What’s, is there something left on your bucket list as far as speed’s concerned? Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (22m 43s):

Two 40.

Scott Birdsall (22m 44s):

Yeah, so the, the fastest production truck out there is the j full size truck and I think their AA truck went 260 something plus like high two 60. I would like to take my little f engine truck out there and best that next year with, you know, around 2000 horsepower and, you know, a lot more weight.

Sean P. Holman (23m 10s):

I think that, I think we can do it, you should throw a couple of John Deere mowers in the back for ballast and then just make a, you know, mockery of the whole thing.

Scott Birdsall (23m 18s):

Yeah. It’s just a lot of, lot of letting gets strategically placed in the correct spots. But I think, I think we can do two 70

Sean P. Holman (23m 26s):

Oh, my god, two 70.

Scott Birdsall (23m 28s):

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That’s, that’s my, that’s our goal for next year. I would like, I would like to be the fastest production bodied truck out of any class at Bonneville ever. And this is, I think that would be, and and

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (23m 42s):

This is with what truck again?

Scott Birdsall (23m 44s):

A 91 Toyota Hilux pickup. Oh, this is the same truck. Extra cab. Yeah, same truck. The frontal area of the, those little Toyotas is is is the lease of pretty much anything made. They’re tiny little trucks. They are still, you know, it compared to a sports car or anything, any modern sports car or anything like that. It’s, it’s, it’s about as aerodynamic as a shoebox. But for trucks they are very aerodynamic.

Sean P. Holman (24m 12s):

Well I think that if you’re gonna do that next year, if barring our schedule’s not allowing it, I think that would be awesome for us to be there to watch

Scott Birdsall (24m 21s):

I mean. I think you guys should be out there. I was kind of bummed we weren’t out there this year. Yeah,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (24m 25s):

Yeah. Well Holman was on an adventure.

Scott Birdsall (24m 27s):

I felt, I felt betrayed.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (24m 28s):

I was at work, but we were, we were watching, we were watching all the posts.

Sean P. Holman (24m 31s):

Yeah. I fi I followed you religiously until I lost a cell phone connection for two days and then I was like, damn, I wonder what happened to Scott and then it came back, I was like, holy

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (24m 40s):

By the way he’s telling the truth. Because the episode that week did not go up as it was supposed to. I had, and I didn’t know about it until it was too late and the listeners were blowing us up going, are you gonna put up that episode? We’re like, what are Dave? Dave? Well, I’m

Sean P. Holman (24m 51s):

Well Dave. Yeah, Dave came back to us and it was The have You Heard last week, last episode. And I have my satellite communicator and I texted Lightning and I said, Hey, I have no, I have zero service. I haven’t had service in two days. I don’t And didn’t get it. I guess You didn’t get it. Didn’t get

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (25m 6s):

It. Nope.

Sean P. Holman (25m 7s):

So, so I didn’t, not only did I, did I forsake you, Scott, I also, the entire, the entire audience of The Truck Show Podcast last week. So

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (25m 15s):

That’s some monumental Yeah,

Scott Birdsall (25m 16s):

I was wondering what that was, but I was busy.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (25m 19s):

So a monumental feat there my friend. That’s, that’s super cool. So 2 29 0.4 and a Toyota Hilux and then you’re gonna go for break two 60 in the same truck with a lot of ballast and more horsepower. What do you see? You’re making predictions beyond that. Like are you just gonna do Bonneville or do you wanna return to the mountain to, to Pikes Peak or

Scott Birdsall (25m 40s):

I’m gonna, I’ll be back at Pikes Peak. Yeah, we’ll we just, you know, that’s just not with an EcoDiesel man. Those are worst tensions. Okay. Yeah, no thanks, but

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (25m 52s):

So, so maybe so what we’re hearing is Old Smoky might make a return in some form. Well

Sean P. Holman (25m 58s):

What’s interesting is he did a video of pulling old Smokey’s parts out and he had the raw frame sitting there on, on Instagram, like without everything on it. And he did a walk around and you’re looking at going, Hmm, it’s not as bad as you would expect.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (26m 12s):

He’s gonna do something with that, isn’t he? I’m thinking.

Sean P. Holman (26m 14s):

Yeah.

Scott Birdsall (26m 15s):

You know, I can’t, I can’t confirm or deny that, but the chassis of Old Smokey is pretty straight.

Sean P. Holman (26m 24s):

I

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (26m 24s):

The rest of it’s just sheet metal

Sean P. Holman (26m 25s):

I mean. Hmm.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (26m 27s):

Yeah.

Scott Birdsall (26m 28s):

Like we, it’s so straight. We probably don’t have to pull it straight. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s, there’s a couple, there’s a couple pieces of the tube by the fuel cell that need to get cut out and remade, but the inside cage structure is good. The, the under the cab is good.

Sean P. Holman (26m 46s):

I mean it’s just barely broken up.

Scott Birdsall (26m 47s):

The front of the cab got kinda screwed up. Yeah. I mean it just got broken a little bit. So Yeah, it’s radio, you know, needs smoke needs a new body and some new suspension arms and you know, kind of a, well you,

Sean P. Holman (26m 59s):

You know, version

Scott Birdsall (27m 1s):

Two,

Sean P. Holman (27m 2s):

We know you or you know, we love you. So hopefully we’ll be able to stay in touch and, and you know, keep tabs on your progress. It’s can

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 10s):

You, if if that thing comes back, it’ll be like a band reunion. You know what I mean. Like everyone is like, I was at the last concert and then like Oh, my god, my Chemical romance is getting back together, you know, whoever the band is

Sean P. Holman (27m 21s):

Really. My Chemical romance band

Scott Birdsall (27m 22s):

Was a, my chemical romance.

Sean P. Holman (27m 23s):

No kidding.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 24s):

Yeah. Well who’s who’s, who’s got back together recently. Like it was something like

Sean P. Holman (27m 27s):

This late 180 2.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 28s):

I guess that’d be a little better

Sean P. Holman (27m 30s):

Than my chemical.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 32s):

I’m a, I’m a Mike Chem fan.

Scott Birdsall (27m 33s):

We’re getting marginally better. I’m gonna need like, some kind of cool metal band. Not some like,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 39s):

Well who’s who, who’s broken up and gotten back together. It’s like, not like Sabo

Sean P. Holman (27m 42s):

Or didn’t Mike Carrera and No Effects Get Back. Yeah, but that’s,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 45s):

That’s kind of punk weak Bay Area stuff. That’s not like dude what? No, he’s some like real metal. He’s talking like Pantera You know what I mean. Something like that.

Scott Birdsall (27m 54s):

Yeah. Let’s, let’s, let’s get something a little harder there.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (27m 59s):

Congratulations. We’re, we’re super stoked. You did it and you didn’t die, which is awesome. Are

Sean P. Holman (28m 4s):

You gonna do an oil analysis on the AMS oil that’s in the engine? Oh yeah. I wanna find out what the health of the engine is after that run. I’m curious.

Scott Birdsall (28m 13s):

It wasn’t even a full boost, it was just, it was just cruising.

Sean P. Holman (28m 16s):

That’s crazy to me. That’s

Scott Birdsall (28m 18s):

So crazy. And you know, because we’re running, ’cause we’re running methanol, we just religiously changed the oil after every couple runs. But I mean that AMS oil worked really good. We didn’t, when we had to check the engine for in tech for the, you know, they stick a thing to measure the bore in there and then a thing to measure the stroke to make sure you’re not cheating for cubic inches. Like everything looked good in there. Just it’s, it’s just as good as it was when we went there. So are

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (28m 44s):

Are you running like five W 40 0 30? Like I have no idea what a two Jay-Z what’s recommended for that

Sean P. Holman (28m 50s):

75 90 and then

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (28m 52s):

That’s, that’s rear diff Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (28m 55s):

My friends

Scott Birdsall (28m 55s):

Two 50. Wait, yeah,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (28m 57s):

No, but I have no idea. What’s, are you using a, their regular signature series synthetic that we would buy over the counter?

Scott Birdsall (29m 3s):

That’s what well that’s what we put in the tow rig. Just the, the signature series Diesel stuff. Land speed Scaping truck. We use the 10 40 Dominator Competition oil in that 10 40. It’s got lots of zinc in it and

Sean P. Holman (29m 17s):

Literally it

Scott Birdsall (29m 18s):

Works really good. Hey

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (29m 19s):

You know what I didn’t see, I’m sure that I did, but it didn’t stick out at me. You always do like really creative fire suits and you know, you did, you’ve done like the, the like the Wonder Bread style you did, like you and Aaron Kaufman did the matching, like mariachi guys, whatever the hell you were like up on Pikes Peak, right? What were you doing? I know you had a really badass helmet for Bonneville, but I didn’t see like any kinda like crazy fire.

Sean P. Holman (29m 42s):

It was white because of the reflection of the salt off the Yeah,

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (29m 45s):

The heat, right. So the

Scott Birdsall (29m 47s):

Saw belt makes all my road racing suits and we did like the a a a replica of the Talladega Knights like Wonder Bread suit, except it says AMS oil across, across the set of Wonder Bread. That’s my road race suit. But my, my Bonneville suit is custom made by Simpson and it’s an SFI 20 suit. And if you guys have ever put one of these things on, like you feel this one’s custom made, so it’s like as sleek as it can possibly be, but I, it’s so thick. I still look like the state puff marshmallow man in this thing. But

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (30m 22s):

Friend

Scott Birdsall (30m 22s):

Toyo and Heat Wave and AMS oil on it, it’s got all my sponsors, but it’s a, it’s just a really nice white suit. I, there’s no theme or anything to it.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (30m 31s):

Okay, well

Sean P. Holman (30m 31s):

The truck was awesome enough. You need

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (30m 33s):

To take, I look forward every year when you go to Pikes Peak because it’s like the big reveal of the costume You know what I mean.

Scott Birdsall (30m 38s):

So that’s my thing. Like I don’t, people take road racing too seriously and, and like I’m, I’m there to take it serious obviously ’cause it’s a freaking sketchy race, but I like to have fun with it. So like, you know, last year I had like the cow, the the Black Cowboy thing and and the year before that I had the Dia de los Muertos thing and then Kaman had the mariachi thing and yeah, it’s just fun.

Sean P. Holman (31m 4s):

That’s our friend. Scott Birdsall. Everybody

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 7s):

Give it up. Give it up

Scott Birdsall (31m 9s):

America Go America

Sean P. Holman (31m 10s):

World Record holder and Champion. Oh, that’s

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 12s):

Right. We have to announce him that way from now on. Oh, do world record holder? Yeah. Oh, Scott Birdsall.

Sean P. Holman (31m 17s):

All right.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 17s):

All right. We’ll do a record.

Scott Birdsall (31m 18s):

You guys ever watch Game of Thrones where they’re like, where they’re like protector of the realm and all these other crazy things. Like I want at least 10 titles before you guys as you guys introduce me.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 28s):

All right. That it’ll happen for the next one. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (31m 32s):

Okay. We’ll have to think of all of ’em. A world record holder, protect

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 34s):

Protector of the realm is pretty hard. Freaking hard to

Sean P. Holman (31m 36s):

Be there. Is the, the, the, the fastest man on No Wheels at Bikes

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 42s):

Peak Chancellor of Speed. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (31m 44s):

I like Chancellor of Speed. Yeah. Huh.

Scott Birdsall (31m 46s):

You know, my favorite, my favorite one was King of the Side of the Mountain

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 51s):

King.

Sean P. Holman (31m 52s):

I can’t, I can’t beat that. We’re gonna go

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 53s):

With it. Thank you. Goodnight. Alright, Scott, congratulations. Love you

Sean P. Holman (31m 58s):

Mean it.

Scott Birdsall (31m 58s):

Alright guys. All

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (31m 60s):

Right. We’ll talk to you. Thanks. All right,

Sean P. Holman (32m 0s):

See you buddy.

Scott Birdsall (32m 1s):

Later.

Jay “Lighting” Tilles (32m 2s):

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Scott Birdsall (32m 25s):

Love you, meaning bye.